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On JRE #2545, Joe Rogan & I discussed Mario Woods’ & Michael Johnson’s famous UFO encounter and their subsequent decades long separation.
On tomorrow’s episode of American Alchemy, Mario Woods & Michael Johnson finally reunite to recount an unbelievable experience that changed the course of both of their lives.
On JRE #2545, Joe Rogan & I discussed Mario Woods’ & Michael Johnson’s famous UFO encounter and their subsequent decades long separation.
On tomorrow’s episode of American Alchemy, Mario Woods & Michael Johnson finally reunite to recount an unbelievable experience that changed the course of both of their lives.
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Our American Alchemist this week is UAP Gerb (@UAPGerb)
Former Vice President Dick Cheney implicated in the American UFO reverse engineering program. UAP researcher UAPGerb lays out the most detailed reconstruction yet of how the U.S. government has organized UFO crash retrieval, storage, and technology exploitation since the 1940s. This is not one program. It is a layered, compartmentalized system that grew out of the Manhattan Project, the Atomic Energy Commission, and Cold War intelligence structures.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
04:32 Meet UAP Gerb
06:00 Legacy Programs
12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors
16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks
23:50 Modern Majestic 12
27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs
31:08 A Naval Perspective
32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy
37:38 Individuals in the Shadows
41:27 A Call to Action
43:04 The Office of Global Access
49:48 The Conflict of Interest
51:28 The Role of MITRE
1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside
1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle
1:15:47 Jonathan Wagans Story
1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation
1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams
1:22:01 The DOE NEST
1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors
1:28:08 The Roswell Incident
1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement
1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistners Testimony
1:31:55 The GAO Audit
1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex
1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies
1:44:25 Underground Military Bases
1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities
1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics
2:04:48 Marconi’s Involvement
2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang
2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research
2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure
2:26:34 The Nature of Reality
2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics
2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure
2:38:42 The Shadow Government
2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies
2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights
2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies
2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community
2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure
2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control
2:51:34 The Role of Psyops
2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs
2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure
2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research
3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability
3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative
3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience
3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse
3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch")
