Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In episode 245 of the Transition Drill Podcast explore military transition, leadership under pressure, and career reinvention for veterans and first responders navigating life after service. You’ll hear Retired Master Sergeant Eric Harmon on the challenge of translating elite skills into the civilian world, and what it takes to build a new mission with real ownership and risk.
Eric Harmon grew up in Southern California after spending part of his childhood in Hawaii, raised by a father who served as both a police officer and FBI agent. With no clear plan after high school, he entered the Marine Corps at 18, initially as a military police reservist before quickly committing to active duty. His early career placed him in Iraq, where he worked as part of a security element supporting EOD teams. That exposure shifted his trajectory. Watching those teams operate, he realized he wanted to be the one solving the problem, not just protecting the perimeter.
After multiple deployments, Harmon made the transition into Explosive Ordnance Disposal. He approached EOD school with the mindset that it was his version of college, knowing that failure to learn could have real consequences downrange. Over the next 16 years, including time in MARSOC, he operated in high-risk environments where calm decision-making, pattern recognition, and adaptability were critical. He describes how those traits are built through repetition and experience, not personality.
His transition out of the military forced a different kind of pressure. Moving into civilian life and eventually starting his own business, Harmon found that the stress shifted from mission execution to total accountability. Without the structure of the military, he became the single point of failure, responsible for every decision, outcome, and setback. That shift tested his leadership, forcing him to adapt how he communicates, manages people, and applies the skills he developed in uniform.
Today, he the Game Day Men’s Health clinic in Tustin, CA, carrying forward the lessons from EOD into entrepreneurship. Eric also survived a horrific motorcycle crash after getting out of the Marine Corps and starting his business. His story highlights a key reality for transitioning service members. The technical skills may not always transfer directly, but the ability to lead, operate under pressure, and solve problems does. The challenge is learning how to apply them in a completely different environment.
CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST:
Instagram: instagram.com/paulpantani
WEBSITE: transitiondrillpodcast.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/paulpantani
SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER:
transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS:
paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com
#transitiondrillpodcast #militarytransition #firstresponders
In episode 245 of the Transition Drill Podcast explore military transition, leadership under pressure, and career reinvention for veterans and first responders navigating life after service. You’ll hear Retired Master Sergeant Eric Harmon on the challenge of translating elite skills into the civilian world, and what it takes to build a new mission with real ownership and risk.
Eric Harmon grew up in Southern California after spending part of his childhood in Hawaii, raised by a father who served as both a police officer and FBI agent. With no clear plan after high school, he entered the Marine Corps at 18, initially as a military police reservist before quickly committing to active duty. His early career placed him in Iraq, where he worked as part of a security element supporting EOD teams. That exposure shifted his trajectory. Watching those teams operate, he realized he wanted to be the one solving the problem, not just protecting the perimeter.
After multiple deployments, Harmon made the transition into Explosive Ordnance Disposal. He approached EOD school with the mindset that it was his version of college, knowing that failure to learn could have real consequences downrange. Over the next 16 years, including time in MARSOC, he operated in high-risk environments where calm decision-making, pattern recognition, and adaptability were critical. He describes how those traits are built through repetition and experience, not personality.
His transition out of the military forced a different kind of pressure. Moving into civilian life and eventually starting his own business, Harmon found that the stress shifted from mission execution to total accountability. Without the structure of the military, he became the single point of failure, responsible for every decision, outcome, and setback. That shift tested his leadership, forcing him to adapt how he communicates, manages people, and applies the skills he developed in uniform.
Today, he the Game Day Men’s Health clinic in Tustin, CA, carrying forward the lessons from EOD into entrepreneurship. Eric also survived a horrific motorcycle crash after getting out of the Marine Corps and starting his business. His story highlights a key reality for transitioning service members. The technical skills may not always transfer directly, but the ability to lead, operate under pressure, and solve problems does. The challenge is learning how to apply them in a completely different environment.
CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST:
Instagram: instagram.com/paulpantani
WEBSITE: transitiondrillpodcast.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/paulpantani
SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER:
transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS:
paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com
#transitiondrillpodcast #militarytransition #firstresponders









![Firefighter Paramedic: When the Uniform Came Off The Battle With Life After the Job. Kyle Collins
Kyle Collins, retired Deputy Fire Chief, in Episode 230 of the Transition Drill Podcast explores identity loss after service for firefighters, veterans, and first responders navigating retirement and life after the uniform. You’ll hear Kyle Collins on what happens when decades of trauma, leadership, and purpose collide with silence, and what it takes to admit you need help before you lose the people you love.
Kyle Collins spent his life inside the fire service. He grew up around the outdoors, learned hard technical skills early, and chased a path that eventually led him to become a paramedic, a firefighter, a company officer, a battalion chief, and finally a deputy fire chief. He didn’t just work calls, he carried them. Years on paramedic squad meant nonstop exposure to emergencies across wide areas. Child calls hit him the hardest, especially when they mirrored the ages of his own kids. He learned to compartmentalize because that was how the culture worked. You showed up, did the job, and moved on.
By the time Kyle retired in December 2019, he had given more than three decades to the job. He thought he was ready. Then COVID hit. Travel plans disappeared. His daughter’s family moved into his house longer than expected. The routines that usually keep retirees grounded weren’t there. The phone stopped ringing. The role that had defined him for decades vanished, and he didn’t know how much of his identity had been tied to it until it was gone.
What followed wasn’t what he expected. He wasn’t having nightmares or flashbacks. He was losing patience. Losing gratitude. Losing the ability to feel joy. He felt ashamed because on paper his life looked good. A pension. A long marriage. A family. Inside, he was coming apart. He kept calling friends at the department just to feel connected, then realized he had to let go because it was keeping him stuck.
The breaking point came when his anger spilled into his home and scared the people he loved. That night forced him to admit something he’d avoided for years. He wasn’t okay. Kyle reached out for help and was connected with a therapist who specialized in first responders. Through EMDR and months of work, he started unpacking decades of calls he never dealt with, including many he didn’t realize were still active inside him.
This conversation isn’t about weakness. It’s about what happens when strong people don’t get ahead of what they carry. Kyle shares what the job took, what retirement exposed, and what it actually looks like to rebuild when the uniform comes off.
The best podcast for military veterans, police officers, firefighters, and first responders preparing for veteran transition and life after service. Helping you plan and implement strategies to prepare for your transition into civilian life. Follow the show and share it with another veteran or first responder who would enjoy this.
CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/
WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/
SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER:
https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS:
paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com
EPISODE BLOG PAGE AND CONNECT WITH KYLE
https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com/post/transition-drill-podcast-deputy-fire-chief-and-the-cost-of-an-emergency-service-career-kyle-collins
CHAPTERS
[0:00:00] — Intro: First question, transition help
[0:01:42] — Not prepared for retirement
[0:08:05] — Suck it up culture, ignored signs
[0:10:29] — Retired early, stress piled up
[0:14:26] — Calls with kids, family impact
[0:17:38] — Before fire, hard hat diver
[0:20:48] — Printing job, fire dream sparked
[0:22:21] — Hiring grind, sleeping in line
[0:25:00] — Paramedic school gamble
[0:29:23] — Hired in Chino mid-paramedic school
[0:34:06] — Prop W, district breaks away
[0:42:05] — Promotions and leadership path
[0:46:00] — Deputy chief life, coach, burnout
[0:52:29] — Retirement meets COVID
[0:57:47] — Nightmares, PTSD surfaces
[1:01:45] — Identity loss and purpose
[1:09:17] — Suicide calls and dark moments
[1:12:42] — Anxiety and anger, unraveling
[1:20:30] — Therapy and EMDR recovery
[1:47:13] - Esperanza Fire Almost Consumed Crew
SPONSORS:
GRND Collective
Get 15% off your purchase
Link: https://thegrndcollective.com/
Promo Code: TRANSITION15
Blue Line Roasting
Get 10% off your purchase
Link: https://bluelineroasting.com
Promocode: Transition10
Frontline Optics
Get 10% off your purchase
Link: https://frontlineoptics.com
Promocode: Transition10
#transitiondrillpodcast #militarytransition #firstresponders Firefighter Paramedic: When the Uniform Came Off The Battle With Life After the Job. Kyle Collins](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8IQoe61usw8/mqdefault.jpg)
