Making Matters: In conversation with Wacy Zacarias and Yegwa Ukpo @britishartschannel
Making Matters: In conversation with Wacy Zacarias and Yegwa Ukpo  @britishartschannel
Uploaded October 2020 | Updated September 2026, 7 hours ago
Watch and listen, as Wacy Zacarias, a designer and traditional healer based in Mozambique and Yegwa Ukpo, a designer and curator with a focus on alternate futures based in Nigeria, discuss the ways in which we can begin to differentiate ourselves - through design - from the linear global narrative that dominates design, materiality and changing the perspective on what contemporary design both looks and feels like.

We commissioned this series as part of our Circular Design Labs which we develop in collaboration with the Ellen MacArthur Foundation. Both Wacy and Yegwa were part of the 2019 cohort.

To find out more about this initiative which runs within our Making Matters programme, click here: design.britishcouncil.org/projects/Making-Matters
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Making Matters: In conversation with Wacy Zacarias and Yegwa Ukpo

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