Uploaded August 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Lulu Miller has done a lot of things and done them very well. She is currently the co-host of Radiolab and its family-friendly spinoff, Terrestrials. She also co-created Invisibilia with Alix Spiegel and wrote the beautiful book, Why Fish Don't Exist. In our conversation, I try to learn Lulu's secrets when it comes it sharing science across media. I've been a fan of her work for a long time, so it was great to get to talk with her!

(If you're here as a Radiolab fan, you should also check out my chat with Latif Nasser a couple of years ago.)

For more, head to this episode's webpage: opinionsciencepodcast.com/episode/lulu-miller-on-leading-with-story

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