Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Kate Bowler and Mary Laura Philpott name the “backward deal of the universe”: the more you love, the more you stand to lose.
From parenting nerves to the dread that shows up out of nowhere, this episode offers language for love that feels tender and terrifying at the same time—and a blessing for learning to carry both.
Kate Bowler and Mary Laura Philpott name the “backward deal of the universe”: the more you love, the more you stand to lose.
From parenting nerves to the dread that shows up out of nowhere, this episode offers language for love that feels tender and terrifying at the same time—and a blessing for learning to carry both.










