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Examining alternative viewpoints on UFOs and related phenomena with SUSAN DEMETER-ST.CLAIR AND MIKE CLELLAND.
So much time, research and dedication has been poured into the UFO mystery over the past 70 years. Top Secret documents have been filed, books have been written and movies produced. However, are we now any closer to solving the mystery than we were when Kenneth Arnold had his first strange sighting over the Cascade Mountains in 1947?
Timothy Green Beckley and Tim R. Swartz discusses with guests Susan Demeter-St. Clair and Mike Clelland the stranger aspects of the UFO phenomena such as the mysterious connection between owls, synchronicity and UFO abduction. As well, Susan points out that the high-strangness aspects of UFO (and other) encounters could be a path to understanding the human experience that goes beyond normal perceptions. Susan also talks about her experiences as a child with little figures that resembled elves, and her later perceptions of a wolf entity that may have been an offshoot of her own consciousness.
Perhaps we have not been able to find the answers about UFOs because we haven't been asking the right questions. In fact, our brains may be unable to even conceive of the questions that are needed to understand the UFO mystery. We view our world, our reality, as a mirror image of ourselves...and why not? We have no other references other than our own experience. Yet we expect to find answers to something that may be far beyond human conception. We are looking at UFOs from the cracked mirror of human experience and conditioning, growing frustrated when no answers are forthcoming, yet continuously tantalized by the brass ring that seems to be forever just out of reach.
Examining alternative viewpoints on UFOs and related phenomena with SUSAN DEMETER-ST.CLAIR AND MIKE CLELLAND.
So much time, research and dedication has been poured into the UFO mystery over the past 70 years. Top Secret documents have been filed, books have been written and movies produced. However, are we now any closer to solving the mystery than we were when Kenneth Arnold had his first strange sighting over the Cascade Mountains in 1947?
Timothy Green Beckley and Tim R. Swartz discusses with guests Susan Demeter-St. Clair and Mike Clelland the stranger aspects of the UFO phenomena such as the mysterious connection between owls, synchronicity and UFO abduction. As well, Susan points out that the high-strangness aspects of UFO (and other) encounters could be a path to understanding the human experience that goes beyond normal perceptions. Susan also talks about her experiences as a child with little figures that resembled elves, and her later perceptions of a wolf entity that may have been an offshoot of her own consciousness.
Perhaps we have not been able to find the answers about UFOs because we haven't been asking the right questions. In fact, our brains may be unable to even conceive of the questions that are needed to understand the UFO mystery. We view our world, our reality, as a mirror image of ourselves...and why not? We have no other references other than our own experience. Yet we expect to find answers to something that may be far beyond human conception. We are looking at UFOs from the cracked mirror of human experience and conditioning, growing frustrated when no answers are forthcoming, yet continuously tantalized by the brass ring that seems to be forever just out of reach.
