Uploaded January 2012 | Updated September 2026, 40 minutes ago
You: Scary, the wiki page for the magnum says it penetrates twice, and the handcannon three times and I see people claiming the same on forums. Is that true?
kf-wiki.com/wiki/.44_Magnum
kf-wiki.com/index.php?title=.44_Magnum&action=historysubmit&diff=17924&oldid=17882
Me: Why don't we just look at the source code. The wiki authors did look at the source code right?
You: I have no idea. They don't cite any sources or link any videos to back up their claims.
Me: Well, regardless, why don't we look at the code that implements the handcannon (deagle) and magnum penetration. With your favorite text editor, open DeagleFire.uc and Magnum44Fire.uc
You: Okay, I did that and both of them only have one function, DoTrace
Me: Yup, now do a line by line compare of the DoTrace function from both files.
You: Hey...the code in both functions look...
Me: Exactly the same? Like someone copied and pasted it?
You: You took the words right out of my mouth. So that means the magnum and deagle have the same penetration stats right?
Me: That's right. So looking at the code, if either HitCount gte 10 or HCount gte 4, the tracer stops allocating damage. Since both HitCount and HCount are incremented once per iteration, the tracer stops damaging targets after 4 iterations. So both magnum and deagle can hit 4 targets (3 penetrations), with damage halving after each penetration.
You: That's interesting, can you show this to me in game?
Me: Of course. Pause the video at 0:43, 1:13, 1:45, 2:17. How many health bars are less than 100%?
You: I see 4, just like you said. Wow, those wiki contributors are terrible. Don't the wiki admins enforce any quality control?
Me: Indeed they are and nope. Even though there is blatantly wrong information on it and no cited sources or videos, the admins just leave it be.
You: So basically avoid the wiki like Ravenholm?
Me: Exactly. Unless you want to be attacked by head crabs.
You: What should I tell people who cite the kf wiki and tell people that magnums only penetrate once?
Me: Tell them they should know better than to use a website that has no cited sources, can be edited by anyone, and has no quality control.
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DeagleFire.uc
Magnum44Fire.uc
You: Scary, the wiki page for the magnum says it penetrates twice, and the handcannon three times and I see people claiming the same on forums. Is that true?
kf-wiki.com/wiki/.44_Magnum
kf-wiki.com/index.php?title=.44_Magnum&action=historysubmit&diff=17924&oldid=17882
Me: Why don't we just look at the source code. The wiki authors did look at the source code right?
You: I have no idea. They don't cite any sources or link any videos to back up their claims.
Me: Well, regardless, why don't we look at the code that implements the handcannon (deagle) and magnum penetration. With your favorite text editor, open DeagleFire.uc and Magnum44Fire.uc
You: Okay, I did that and both of them only have one function, DoTrace
Me: Yup, now do a line by line compare of the DoTrace function from both files.
You: Hey...the code in both functions look...
Me: Exactly the same? Like someone copied and pasted it?
You: You took the words right out of my mouth. So that means the magnum and deagle have the same penetration stats right?
Me: That's right. So looking at the code, if either HitCount gte 10 or HCount gte 4, the tracer stops allocating damage. Since both HitCount and HCount are incremented once per iteration, the tracer stops damaging targets after 4 iterations. So both magnum and deagle can hit 4 targets (3 penetrations), with damage halving after each penetration.
You: That's interesting, can you show this to me in game?
Me: Of course. Pause the video at 0:43, 1:13, 1:45, 2:17. How many health bars are less than 100%?
You: I see 4, just like you said. Wow, those wiki contributors are terrible. Don't the wiki admins enforce any quality control?
Me: Indeed they are and nope. Even though there is blatantly wrong information on it and no cited sources or videos, the admins just leave it be.
You: So basically avoid the wiki like Ravenholm?
Me: Exactly. Unless you want to be attacked by head crabs.
You: What should I tell people who cite the kf wiki and tell people that magnums only penetrate once?
Me: Tell them they should know better than to use a website that has no cited sources, can be edited by anyone, and has no quality control.
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This conversation brought to you by the KF source code, reminding you that it is never wrong.
DeagleFire.uc
Magnum44Fire.uc
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