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“Life is a gift, that is why they call it the present. Cherish it always.”
That’s the mantra of this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Kevin Hines.
Kevin attempted to take his life by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Miraculously, a sea lion kept him afloat until the Coast Guard arrived. He is one of only thirty-six (less than 1%) to survive that fall. He shares his compelling story of hope, healing, and his will to live with Marcus. His story was featured in the 2006 film The Bridge by film director and producer, Eric Steel. Kevin has inspired millions worldwide in the art of wellness and the ability to survive pain with true resilience. “Be here tomorrow…”
In this episode you will hear:
My biological parents had me on a diet of Kool-Aid, Coca-Cola, and sour milk.
My parents would leave me and my brother unattended to go score and sell drugs. Then Child Protective Services picked us up and put us in foster care.
The only time I ever lost faith was when I stood atop the Golden Gate Bridge looking down. I found it on my way down.
There’s a high number of suicidal teens who went through foster care. Many were abused and neglected by the ones in place to protect them.
[Marcus] “I think the kids that go through it, are the ones who can fix it.”
I finally ended up with foster parents who saved my life. They gave me a beautiful childhood.
At 17 my brain broke. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and then things got completely out of control.
I had auditory hallucinations telling me I had to die.
If somebody would have just asked me, I would’ve just told them the truth of my situation.
I left a suicide note in my backpack because I wanted my family knows I loved them.
When I was still underwater, I thought, “I’m gonna die here and no one’s gonna know I don’t want to. No one’s gonna know I made a mistake.”
On that [Coast Guard] boat, I made a cognitive decision: I would never again attempt to take my life as long as I should live, no matter the pain I’m in.
When you encounter a suicidal person, it’s about being with them in the moment. “What do you need from me to say here? How can I help keep you on this planet?”
My new motto is: I’m gonna be here tomorrow, and every day after that, no matter the pain I’m in.
Every moment of every day is a good moment.
It’s a privilege to exist.
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is now: 988
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
“Life is a gift, that is why they call it the present. Cherish it always.”
That’s the mantra of this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Kevin Hines.
Kevin attempted to take his life by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Miraculously, a sea lion kept him afloat until the Coast Guard arrived. He is one of only thirty-six (less than 1%) to survive that fall. He shares his compelling story of hope, healing, and his will to live with Marcus. His story was featured in the 2006 film The Bridge by film director and producer, Eric Steel. Kevin has inspired millions worldwide in the art of wellness and the ability to survive pain with true resilience. “Be here tomorrow…”
In this episode you will hear:
My biological parents had me on a diet of Kool-Aid, Coca-Cola, and sour milk.
My parents would leave me and my brother unattended to go score and sell drugs. Then Child Protective Services picked us up and put us in foster care.
The only time I ever lost faith was when I stood atop the Golden Gate Bridge looking down. I found it on my way down.
There’s a high number of suicidal teens who went through foster care. Many were abused and neglected by the ones in place to protect them.
[Marcus] “I think the kids that go through it, are the ones who can fix it.”
I finally ended up with foster parents who saved my life. They gave me a beautiful childhood.
At 17 my brain broke. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and then things got completely out of control.
I had auditory hallucinations telling me I had to die.
If somebody would have just asked me, I would’ve just told them the truth of my situation.
I left a suicide note in my backpack because I wanted my family knows I loved them.
When I was still underwater, I thought, “I’m gonna die here and no one’s gonna know I don’t want to. No one’s gonna know I made a mistake.”
On that [Coast Guard] boat, I made a cognitive decision: I would never again attempt to take my life as long as I should live, no matter the pain I’m in.
When you encounter a suicidal person, it’s about being with them in the moment. “What do you need from me to say here? How can I help keep you on this planet?”
My new motto is: I’m gonna be here tomorrow, and every day after that, no matter the pain I’m in.
Every moment of every day is a good moment.
It’s a privilege to exist.
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is now: 988
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.

![DR. TERRY FOSSUM: Veterinarian Surgeon, & Author Discusses Her Ground-Breaking Medicines For Dogs
A Passion for Animal Wellness.
Welcome to this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, where we explore the fascinating world of veterinary medicine and animal wellness. In today’s episode, we are honored to have a distinguished guest, Dr. Terry Fossum, a world-renowned and board-certified veterinary surgeon. Dr. Fossum is a leading figure in the field of veterinary surgery, having earned international acclaim for her expertise.
She is the author of a best-selling textbook on small animal surgery, a testament to her deep knowledge and commitment to advancing veterinary practices.
With over 18,000 surgeries under her belt, Dr. Fossum has dedicated her career to the well-being of animals, striving to ensure that pets lead healthy and happy lives.
As a respected authority in the veterinary world, Dr. Fossum has been invited to deliver over 1,000 lectures to veterinarians worldwide. Her insights have shaped the knowledge and skills of professionals across the globe.
Her contributions extend beyond the operating room. Dr. Fossum’s commitment to education and sharing her expertise has left an indelible mark on the veterinary community.
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In this episode you will hear:
• In my world, I do soft tissue surgery. I don’t even do orthopedic anymore. (9:54)
• When I was at A&M, with the help of then governor Perry, we built a large laboratory practice facility. (11:06)
• [Oleander] could be one of the most amazing natural compounds we have ever identified. (12:30)
• Senescent cells are the reason that we age. I think we can slow it down. (13:50)
• We do want to live longer and healthier. (13:47)
• As the number of divisions that a cell has continues, eventually they start making mistakes. (14:07)
• Some cells become senescent, which means they no longer divide. They sit in our body and secrete really inflammatory substances. (14:53)
• If you give a chemotherapeutic to a person, you drive some cells into senescence. And those cells are no longer going to respond to the chemotherapeutic. (16:06)
• Q: How much do you think it costs to get a drug approved through the FDA?
A: 2 Billion Dollars [$2,000,000,000) (17:30)
• When I hear that saying: “Dogs are man’s best friend”, what I think of is that dogs really are man’s best friend. (36:16)
• [Marcus] A dog’s love – Dog and God – that love that they show – unconditional – I wish I could love like that. (37:02)
• Oleander and a couple of synolytics and I think we have a great product that we will all take. (60:07)
• You can tell what kind of people people are by the way they treat their animals. (61:34)
• [Marcus: My dog, Mr. Rigby, a service canine] Boy, he was my best friend, I loved him and he never said one word to me. (63:32)
• Marcus: When I was a young man going to the SEAL teams, people weren’t SEALS would make up all these grand stories about what it took to get through the program: They give you a puppy, and you have to raise him, and then you gotta kill him. I had to go through [my service dog] Mr. Rigby. And I was the one who had to put him down. I’ve never felt any kind of pain like that. (64:54)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. DR. TERRY FOSSUM: Veterinarian Surgeon, & Author Discusses Her Ground-Breaking Medicines For Dogs](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rQ30QWbDD-A/mqdefault.jpg)


![TAYLOR CAVANAUGH: Rising From Rock Bottom – Through Jail, SEAL Teams, and the French Foreign Legion
From the depths of despair to unparalleled heights of personal redemption.
This week, Marcus and Melanie meet with Taylor Cavanaugh, whose story is one of grit, resilience, and transformation. A former Navy SEAL turned French Foreign Legionnaire, Taylor is the only person to hold this unique distinction. His journey has taken him from jail cells to homelessness and even suicidal thoughts, only to find salvation through discipline and a clear sense of purpose.
In this episode, you’ll hear firsthand about Taylor’s turbulent path from becoming a Navy SEAL to being kicked out of the U.S. military; How a spiral of pleasure-chasing and lack of purpose led to hitting rock bottom; The life-changing moment of clarity that led him to France and the French Foreign Legion; The rigorous discipline and mental fortification that helped him rebuild his life, and practical insights on how to unlearn self-sabotaging behaviors, cultivate inner peace, and align daily habits with your long-term vision.
Taylor is committed to teaching others how to reclaim their lives by building a strong body, mind, and spirit. He shares actionable strategies to create a beautiful life through discipline, mindfulness, and purposeful choices. His story is a powerful reminder that no matter how far you’ve fallen, redemption is possible through perseverance, discipline, and self-reflection.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I remember the day and the moment I wanted to be a SEAL. I was 7, and I was on the hill at Point Loma, and I go “Hey dad, what’s that?” “Those are SEALS training in the bay. From that point on, I was in the library and Blockbuster getting the VHS tapes. I couldn’t get enough of it. (10:41)
• I was really good on the field with all that training, but the minute I got off the field, I lost my discipline. (11:50)
• If anybody’s aware of how BUDS is, it’s like a living organism. (21:48)
• I hit a guy in a bar – one time. That one punch changed the trajectory of my life, because I broke his orbital eye socket. (29:32)
• I’m no victim. I knew it was against the rules. I did it, and I brought heat on myself. That’s why the commanding officer at Team 7 gave me a general discharge. (34:03)
• I started stacking some bad habits. Without building my self-worth. No alignment with God.
I had lost my identity. (35:41)
• Nobody could tell me anything, because “Hey look at all the external stuff,” but internally I was in chaos. (36:09)
• You can’t bend reality that long. (36:51)
• I was just tired of trying. Then I had this moment. Reset man… It was that moment where I said “Fuck it. I’m going to the French Foreign Legion.” (37:36)
• If you serve your time, you can get French citizenship. (39:01)
• It was psychologically challenging. You’re also alone. I lost my life. (43:30)
• They gave me a fake French passport with a fake name: Trent Clayson. (43:47)
• 150 nations are represented in the foreign legion. (47:54)
• If they hear you speaking English, they’re gonna reprimand you. Give you a little extra love. (50:53)
• I started ratcheting up my discipline. Getting up at 3:30 in the morning. Training. Doing my macros. Reading the scripture. Really started going internal with it. I stated to feel better. (69:50)
• I’m a conduit. I gotta hold myself to a higher standard. (71:10)
• I didn’t expect to do Rambo shit. I want to use it as a vehicle for self-development. (72:32)
• We have rear view mirrors, to glance back to situational awareness, but that’s why it’s a lot smaller. (75:55)
• Even professional athletes have coaches. (78:31)
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![KRISTOFER HEALEY: DHS, ICE - Taking Down The Biggest Tele-Fraud Case In U.S. History
Unmasking Cyber Threats: Insights from Kristofer Healey
In this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie dive deep into the world of cyber security with our special guest, Kristofer Healey and his wife, Lacey. Kristofer is a seasoned expert in cyber security, fraud prevention, and risk management. With years of experience working at the intersection of technology and security, Kristofer brings a wealth of knowledge on how to protect yourself and your organization in the digital age.
Kristofer is an expert on telefraud whose criminal investigative work has been featured in national media profiles, most notably his work investigating India-based call center networks targeting American citizens. Listen in for some great stories about Kristofer’s journey in entrepreneurship and how you can protect yourself and your business.
Kristofer is also a sought-after speaker and consultant, providing strategic advice on preventing cyber-attacks and managing risk in an increasingly connected world.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I worked for ICE down there [South Texas] for about 3 years, and I got picked up by the internal affairs group – Office of the Inspector General – around the time that the gulf cartel was going through a civil war. Cardenas gets extradited to the U.S. He started diming out every dirty Border Patrol Agent, every dirty CDP officer that he had paid money to. I got thrown right in the fire of going after all these dirty and corrupt Border Patrol officers and CDP officers. (6:59)
• I always tell my victims [of phone scams] is you’re gonna get a lot more justice than restitution. (17:07)
• They [phone scammers] get hung up on all the time, but it only takes one to make their week. (21:15)
• The 2 generations that fell victim the most were the 70+ (the boomers) and the younger folks that grew up on the internet. (27:32)
• These [phone scams] are incredibly smart schemes. (33:18)
• Once you do something insanely hard, everything else seems like something you can accomplish. (35:52)
• We indicted 61 people in 5 call centers in the U.S. and India. (42:25)
• She [One of the victims] lost 2 million dollars. She was 82 years old. A retired teacher. Lost every dollar she had. She lost everything. (58:45)
• The IRS scam was very effective, but because we took it down they don’t do that anymore. (63:05)
• For our seniors – people on Facebook in particular – stay off Marketplace. (70:50)
• When you introduce voluntary adversity throughout your life, you’ll always have a well of experiences you can draw from that are going to make you stronger when the adversity is involuntary. (92:09)
• We think we’re going the direction we need to be going in, and God reminds us you’re not in charge. (93:08)
• It’s not what happens to you. It’s how you react. (96:29)
• Life isn’t what happens. It’s what you do with what happens. (96:41)—
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![TOM SMITH: From NYPD to Counterterrorism – Stopping a School Shooting, and Taking Down Terrorists
Partnering with a True Hero – An Exclusive Conversation with Tom Smith
In this powerful episode, Marcus and Melanie welcome Tom Smith, a decorated former NYPD detective with over 30 years of service, who has served on the FBI/NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force since the aftermath of September 11, 2001. Our discussion dives deep into Tom’s remarkable career—from his early days patrolling Harlem to high-stakes international investigations—and celebrates our proud partnership with 360 Security Services in the greater New York state area.
Learn how 360 Security Services and Tom Smith join forces to leverage decades of experience and resources, ensuring client needs are met where and when they’re needed most.
Tom’s journey started in 1990 with the NYPD, progressing from patrol officer in Harlem to detective in specialized units like Narcotics, Gang Investigations, and the Robbery Unit in The Bronx.
In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, Tom was recruited for the elite FBI/NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force. Hear firsthand about the immense responsibilities of preventing another 9/11, the emotional toll of rescue and recovery at Ground Zero, and the harrowing experiences at the landfill.
Discover Tom’s deployment to Afghanistan, where he played a critical role in the rescue of a kidnapped New York Times reporter by collaborating with international security agencies.
Tom recounts the intense investigation of a school shooter threat in upstate New York—a case that struck close to home when the planned target list included friends of his own children.
Get insights into Tom’s role as co-host alongside retired NYPD Sgt. Dan Murphy on the fast-growing true crime podcast, “Gold Shields.”
Tom Smith’s story is not only a testament to bravery and service, but also a compelling narrative of resilience, leadership, and dedication. Whether you’re interested in true crime, counter-terrorism, or inspirational career journeys, this episode is packed with real-life experiences and insights that you won’t want to miss.
In this episode you will hear:
• 5:56 You can retire and you can be out of it, but that drive and what I’ve got in my DNA doesn’t leave.
• 7:04 My dad was my hero.
• 7:09 Watching him [my dad] come home every night with that gold shield that I used to steal, put on my belt and chase my sisters around. That was all I wanted to do.
• 7:34 I knew real young what I was gonna do with the rest of my life.
• 11:00 My dad told me “Listen, if youre gonna do a job, do it great. Just do everything great you can with what’s in front of you. Whether you’re answering a phone or handling a homicide case. Just do it greet.
• 13:08 When I took the NYPD test, 85,000 people took that test. That’s how revered the NYPD was at that time.
• 15:51 Everyone [in the NYPD] was on the same page, and that’s how we got the city turned around from 3,000 homicides each year.
• 31:08 Going from NYPD detective – you know I’m not going to the Bronx. I’m getting dropped in the war zone.
• 37:17 I needed that trust [from an informant] and that relationship to get what I wanted. Did I use him? 100%.
• 38:46 One of the last things I did, which is another story you don’t hear a lot. I stopped a school sheeting from happening. My daughter was a senior there and my son was a freshman.
• 49:46 I went to catholic school. You had nuns who were the toughest women on this earth.
• 50:13 [Marcus] That’s why they call ‘em nuns. They don’t take none of your shit
• 55:21 You get one shot in this life. You There’s no do-overs, no receipts, no returns. You get one shot to make an impression in your kids’ life.
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![JOSH SMITH: Montana Knife Company, Master Blade-Smith, Stylish & Effective Knives Made in the USA
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus & Melanie connect with Josh Smith, Master Bladesmith. His journey into the world of bladesmithing began at the young age of 11, under the mentorship of his baseball coach, Rick Dunkerley. Rick introduced Josh to the art of knife-making, guiding him through the process of removing stock blades.
Josh set up his own shop at home, thanks to his father, who provided him space in his equipment shop. By the age of 12, Josh had joined the American Bladesmith Society, marking the start of his formal journey into bladesmithing.
At 14, Josh attended the Eugene Oregon knife show, where he met other talented knife makers who generously shared their knowledge with him. This experience further fueled his passion and skill in the craft.
At just 15 years old, Josh passed the rigorous Journeyman bladesmith test at the Blade Show in Atlanta, Georgia, becoming the youngest bladesmith to achieve this feat. The Journeyman test involves a performance test, where a forged and heat-treated blade must chop a 1” rope and two 2x4s in half and still be able to shave hair. The blade must also withstand a 90-degree bend in a vise without breaking. Following the performance test, the candidate presents five knives to a panel of Mastersmith Judges for evaluation of craftsmanship.
Josh didn’t stop there. He continued to hone his craft and, at 19, became the youngest bladesmith to earn the prestigious Master Smith rating from the American Bladesmith Society.
Tune in to hear more about Josh’s incredible journey and the dedication it takes to become a master of bladesmithing!
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I passed the Mastersmith test when I was young, so technically, I’m a master bladesmith.
• That [Mastersmith] test and getting there was a lot of work over a lot of years, but really what is meant is you’re really now ready to start learning. You can actually absorb what you’re being taught.
• If you’re looking back at something you built 20 years ago, and you’re still thinking that’s the best thing you’ve ever done, you’ve really gotta be honest with yourself. You really haven’t come very far.
• There’s a picture of me in Blade Magazine when I’m about 12, standing on a milk crate grinding knives.
• I was pretty motivated. At 15 years old, I became the youngest journeyman knife-maker in the world, and then at 19 I became the youngest Mastersmith.
• I started getting publicity in magazines when I was really young. When I was 16 years old, I probably had 150 knife orders from all over the world.
• It’s amazing today, with what’s at your fingertips, you can learn how to do anything right from home.
• Nothing even today replaces being in the presence of that master and having them teach you.
• Style comes over time.
• One thing I’m proud of – I didn’t fall into making one style of a knife. I can do almost anything across the board. That is what a master is.
• I won the best Damascus knife award in the world at the Atlanta Blade Show when I was 20 years old.
• I’ve sharpened thousands of knives for people. It doesn’t matter who made it. What matters is who carried it.
• I don’t need 300million Americans to be my customer. I want the 20-30-40-50 million that are patriotic as hell and appreciate quality. They want that story behind the blade. We’re proving that American manufacturing is not just not dead, but it’s desired by Americans.
• Ten years ago, my house burned to the ground. I was completely broke as hell, living in a camper. And today, I’m shaking hands with President Trump, Junior’s coming over and I pig hunted with Rogan. I get to be friends with heroes-our veterans.
• People need to keep moving the ball forward and never give up.
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![BRIAN DICKINSON: Navy Rescue Swimmer, Summited Mt. Everest goes Blind Survives the Death Zone Alone
Solo in the Death Zone: Brian Dickinson’s Blind Descent from Everest
This week’s Team Never Quit guest is no stranger to adversity. Brian Dickinson, a former U.S. Navy Special Operations Aviation Rescue Swimmer and elite mountaineer, joins us to share the harrowing true story of his solo summit and descent of Mount Everest after being left without a guide—and without sight. After his Sherpa fell ill near the South Col, Brian pushed onward alone to the top of the world, only to be struck by sudden snow blindness on the way down. What followed was a seven-hour descent with no vision, no oxygen, and no margin for error.
Brian holds the record for the highest solo blind descent and has completed the Seven Summits, conquering the tallest peaks on each continent. Before his mountaineering feats, Brian served six years in the U.S. Navy with the elite NSO (Naval Special Operations) community, deploying on high-risk rescue and combat missions in the Persian Gulf.
Now the host of Calm in the Chaos, a podcast that highlights raw, untold rescue stories from America’s unsung heroes, Brian brings the same courage, insight, and humility to this conversation. Whether you’re a fan of extreme adventure, military resilience, or human endurance—you won’t want to miss this one.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• {Marcus] I’m a Charlie Sheen SEAL. (8:19)
• It’s weird when you go from jumping put of helicopters to something less interesting. (14:11)
• You can’t really plan for giving up in the death zone – 26,00 feet. But you can train for the things in your control. (18:07)
• You can’t acclimate to 26 [thousand feet]. You’re slowly dying. Like if you cut your finger, it won’t heal. There’s not enough air. (23:23)
• At Camp 3, this is where you see a straight up ice wall. If you fall, you’re falling for a mile. (24:32)
• When I got about a thousand feet above Camp 3, I had to anchor off to get some water. I had an oxygen mask and goggles, and I took my goggles off to put them around my wrist, and as I was getting my mask off to drink water, my foot slipped, I went to grab the rope, and my goggles slid off and 4they’re just like… down. And you don’t bring extra gear. (25:35)
• There’re over 300 bodies still on the mountain. (30:38)
• You live and die by the decisions you make in life. (31:34)
• When you climb any mountain at night, the sun is your first indication of hope. (37:33)
• According to the Himalayan Database, I’m one of two people to ever have the summit to myself on a given day. (39:07)
• Everything just went completely white. I went Snowblind. And I remember at that moment, dropping down, grabbing the rope, and assessing the situation thinking: I’m at the highest point in the world, I’m completely blind; no one’s coming to get me. (41:07)
• I just witnessed a miracle. It was like someone reached down and picked me up. An unexplained energy. The first thing I did was try the extra oxygen bottle and it started working, and I got 5 full beaths – reeling it in – and it burned. It felt like fire going through my veins. (48:02)
• Everyone loves a survival story. They could care less about the survivor. (53:43)
• That whole time, Jesus was walking alongside me. I felt that presence. (47:05)
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