Uploaded January 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode, we delve into the recent bans at Peterson Academy from the perspective of expelled students Frankie and Dusty. The Peterson Academy is an online academic platform co-founded by Canadian psychologist and author Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and his daughter, Mikhaila Fuller (previously Peterson), who has the role of CEO of Peterson Academy.
In our conversation, we discuss what led Frankie and Dusty to Peterson Academy, what their early impressions were, how tensions started to rise, and how that eventually led to the expulsion of many students, and the growing fear of speaking out for some who stayed behind.
Join us for an open, honest conversation about the Peterson Academy, the decisions its leadership made, and what the impact on the community was.
Thank you for listening.
*UPDATE:*
A few hours after this podcast episode was published, I was also banned. So while watching this episode, you’ll hear me say that I still remain, but it is good to know that this is now no longer the case.
*SHOW LINKS:*
Subscribe: youtube.com/@JeffreyPvanLeeuwen
Support the Show: patreon.com/JeffreyPvanLeeuwen
Listen on Apple Podcast: apple.co/4lLpEXA
Listen on Spotify: spoti.fi/42kcOYy
Follow on X: https://x.com/RealJvanLeeuwen
Follow on Instagram: instagram.com/jeffreypvanleeuwen
Follow on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jeffreypvanleeuwen
YouTube Playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOv56NTjNAeK7cUVamIPioSCsr06-vSGG
*DUSTY MAY TAYLOR LINKS:*
Dusty’s X: https://x.com/DustyMayT
Dusty's Blog: dustymaytaylor.com
Dusty’s Testimony: dustymaytaylor.com/2025/01/19/i-was-expelled-from-peterson-academy
*FRANKIE JOY BAILER LINKS:*
Frankie's X: https://x.com/FrankieJBailer
Frankie's Blog: meanderingminstrel.com
Frankie's Testimony: meanderingminstrel.com/peterson-academy-expulsion-part1
*OUTLINE:*
00:00 Intro
02:44 Path to Peterson Academy
12:38 Early Excitement
34:07 Peterson Academy Social Environment
01:18:20 Change in Atmosphere
01:33:57 Rising Tensions & Asking Questions
02:07:04 The Meme
02:15:24 Mikhaila’s Reaction
02:16:55 Community’s Reaction to Mikhaila
02:48:34 The Bans
02:59:45 Core of The Problem
03:13:11 What Could Have Been Done Better
03:23:06 Message to Peterson Academy
03:26:46 The Letter to Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
03:34:06 Reason for Telling Story
03:44:38 Final Thoughts & Outro
*CONTACT LINKS:*
To come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any reason, visit: podcast.jeffreyvanleeuwen.com/p/contact
This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.
In this episode, we delve into the recent bans at Peterson Academy from the perspective of expelled students Frankie and Dusty. The Peterson Academy is an online academic platform co-founded by Canadian psychologist and author Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and his daughter, Mikhaila Fuller (previously Peterson), who has the role of CEO of Peterson Academy.
In our conversation, we discuss what led Frankie and Dusty to Peterson Academy, what their early impressions were, how tensions started to rise, and how that eventually led to the expulsion of many students, and the growing fear of speaking out for some who stayed behind.
Join us for an open, honest conversation about the Peterson Academy, the decisions its leadership made, and what the impact on the community was.
Thank you for listening.
*UPDATE:*
A few hours after this podcast episode was published, I was also banned. So while watching this episode, you’ll hear me say that I still remain, but it is good to know that this is now no longer the case.
*SHOW LINKS:*
Subscribe: youtube.com/@JeffreyPvanLeeuwen
Support the Show: patreon.com/JeffreyPvanLeeuwen
Listen on Apple Podcast: apple.co/4lLpEXA
Listen on Spotify: spoti.fi/42kcOYy
Follow on X: https://x.com/RealJvanLeeuwen
Follow on Instagram: instagram.com/jeffreypvanleeuwen
Follow on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jeffreypvanleeuwen
YouTube Playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOv56NTjNAeK7cUVamIPioSCsr06-vSGG
*DUSTY MAY TAYLOR LINKS:*
Dusty’s X: https://x.com/DustyMayT
Dusty's Blog: dustymaytaylor.com
Dusty’s Testimony: dustymaytaylor.com/2025/01/19/i-was-expelled-from-peterson-academy
*FRANKIE JOY BAILER LINKS:*
Frankie's X: https://x.com/FrankieJBailer
Frankie's Blog: meanderingminstrel.com
Frankie's Testimony: meanderingminstrel.com/peterson-academy-expulsion-part1
*OUTLINE:*
00:00 Intro
02:44 Path to Peterson Academy
12:38 Early Excitement
34:07 Peterson Academy Social Environment
01:18:20 Change in Atmosphere
01:33:57 Rising Tensions & Asking Questions
02:07:04 The Meme
02:15:24 Mikhaila’s Reaction
02:16:55 Community’s Reaction to Mikhaila
02:48:34 The Bans
02:59:45 Core of The Problem
03:13:11 What Could Have Been Done Better
03:23:06 Message to Peterson Academy
03:26:46 The Letter to Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
03:34:06 Reason for Telling Story
03:44:38 Final Thoughts & Outro
*CONTACT LINKS:*
To come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any reason, visit: podcast.jeffreyvanleeuwen.com/p/contact
This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.
