C0nc0rdance | Jonathan M vs. PZ Myers @C0nc0rdance | Uploaded 12 years ago | Updated 1 day ago
My thanks to Glasgow Skeptics for recording this exchange and permitting me to use it here!
http://glasgowskeptics.com
The full, original video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhX-8fBPWEs
These Glasgow blokes have some great content... you might consider adding them to your "subscribed" list.
Jonathan M doesn't communicate very clearly, so I've had to caption his rambling questions. PZ also didn't follow what specifically Jonathan was asking. He responded a little more clearly to the question once he was able to suss out the real meaning in the question:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/jonathan_maclatchie_collides_w.php
Note the Gish Gallop, the "I'm jus' asking" tactic, and the pants-ruining terror on his face. It's the most nonsensical question about embryology he could have asked, and here's why: a mouse HOX gene can be transplanted to a fly, and still be functional to produce the homologous structure. Lack of correlation? Holy frijoles, you have to be kidding me.
Was PZ too mean to Jonathan? I'd probably argue that he wasn't mean enough. It might help a lot to understand what Jonathan wrote on his blog prior to PZ's appearance:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/in_which_creationists_make_me.php
Jonathan M: You missed a rare opportunity to engage with someone on a topic on which they are an expert. What a shame that your political and religious views allowed you to miss out on the genuine scientific discussion, instead trying to score cheap points for your cause. You'll never be a proper scientist if you put ideology before open inquiry.
My thanks to Glasgow Skeptics for recording this exchange and permitting me to use it here!
http://glasgowskeptics.com
The full, original video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhX-8fBPWEs
These Glasgow blokes have some great content... you might consider adding them to your "subscribed" list.
Jonathan M doesn't communicate very clearly, so I've had to caption his rambling questions. PZ also didn't follow what specifically Jonathan was asking. He responded a little more clearly to the question once he was able to suss out the real meaning in the question:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/jonathan_maclatchie_collides_w.php
Note the Gish Gallop, the "I'm jus' asking" tactic, and the pants-ruining terror on his face. It's the most nonsensical question about embryology he could have asked, and here's why: a mouse HOX gene can be transplanted to a fly, and still be functional to produce the homologous structure. Lack of correlation? Holy frijoles, you have to be kidding me.
Was PZ too mean to Jonathan? I'd probably argue that he wasn't mean enough. It might help a lot to understand what Jonathan wrote on his blog prior to PZ's appearance:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/in_which_creationists_make_me.php
Jonathan M: You missed a rare opportunity to engage with someone on a topic on which they are an expert. What a shame that your political and religious views allowed you to miss out on the genuine scientific discussion, instead trying to score cheap points for your cause. You'll never be a proper scientist if you put ideology before open inquiry.
