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In the wake of the success among members of the Democratic Socialists of America, The Atlantic’s Jonathan Chait has turned in a series of articles that call the group anti-democratic, against the Democratic Party, and unnecessary or even a hindrance to accomplishing policy goals like universal health care. On the other hand, he thinks DSA member Zohran Mamdani is doing a pretty good job as mayor so far.
So what’s at the root of Chait’s problem with the DSA? And what policy position is he completely on board with?
Guest: Jonathan Chait, staff writer at The Atlantic.
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In the wake of the success among members of the Democratic Socialists of America, The Atlantic’s Jonathan Chait has turned in a series of articles that call the group anti-democratic, against the Democratic Party, and unnecessary or even a hindrance to accomplishing policy goals like universal health care. On the other hand, he thinks DSA member Zohran Mamdani is doing a pretty good job as mayor so far.
So what’s at the root of Chait’s problem with the DSA? And what policy position is he completely on board with?
Guest: Jonathan Chait, staff writer at The Atlantic.
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Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.
Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.
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@maryharris on Bluesky
https://bsky.app/profile/maryharris.bsky.social
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