Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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To watch the full interview on our website please visit:
simonsfoundation.org/2013/03/13/john-mccarthy

To watch more segments of this interview with John McCarthy on our channel please visit:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWAzLum_3a19VJAODf2BN17vlpHORS7YJ