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Myke interviews John Gruber of Daring Fireball. They take a deep-dive into how John’s writing takes shape – from capturing ideas and drafting articles to the meticulous editing behind his influential work.

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- Daring Fireball - daringfireball.net
- Daring Fireball: The M4 iPad Pros - daringfireball.net/2024/05/the_m4_ipad_pros
- MacBook Pro - Apple - apple.com/macbook-pro
- Studio Display - Apple - apple.com/studio-display
- Daring Fireball: Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino - daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_cupertino
- Getting Things Done - Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_Things_Done
- Field Notes - fieldnotesbrand.com
- Tot - tot.rocks
- Markdown - Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown#cite_note-markdown-swartz-3
- Daring Fireball: Introducing Markdown - daringfireball.net/2004/03/introducing_markdown
- Daring Fireball: Markdown - daringfireball.net/projects/markdown
- The Enthusiast – Myke's New Blog - theenthusiast.net
- This is how Apple rolls – John Gruber – Macworld - macworld.com/article/205387/apple-rolls.html
- The Talk Show - daringfireball.net/thetalkshow
- Dithering - https://dithering.passport.online/member/
- Sandwich - sandwich.co
- Daring Fireball: WWDC 2007 Keynote News - daringfireball.net/2007/06/wwdc_2007_keynote
- Daring Fireball: Dive Into Markdown - daringfireball.net/2004/03/dive_into_markdown?utm_source=chatgpt.com
- Daring Fireball: Internal Letter Circulates at Apple -- and Leaks to The Verge -- Pushing Back Against Returning to the Office - daringfireball.net/linked/2021/06/04/apple-remote-work
- Apple Extended Keyboard - Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard
- tinkerBOY ADB Keyboard/Mouse to USB Converter - https://www.tinkerboy.xyz/product/tinkerboy-adb-to-usb-keyboard-mouse-converter/
- ThinkPad Silent Bluetooth Mouse - lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/keyboards-and-mice/mice/4y50x88822
- MarsEdit - redsweater.com/marsedit
- BBEdit - barebones.com/products/bbedit
- John's Home Screen - relayfm.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/Cortex/Episode%20169/John%27s%20Home%20Screen.jpeg
- Daring Fireball: Kotoba: The Best iOS Dictionary App You've Never Heard Of - daringfireball.net/linked/2018/06/19/kotoba
- Sequel - https://www.getsequel.app/
- Sofa - sofahq.com
- Callsheet - callsheetapp.com
- Tapestry - usetapestry.com
- NetNewsWire - netnewswire.com
- Ivory - tapbots.com/ivory
- Things - culturedcode.com/things
- Sidekick Pocket - cottonbureau.com/p/CMV69H/notebook/sidekick-pocket#/28541042/to-do- - 2-pack


Chapters:
00:00:00 - John Gruber – State of the Workflow
00:00:38 - Most Important Device
00:07:26 - Saving and Sorting Ideas
00:14:22 - Anticipating the Work
00:18:02 - When Do You Write?
00:22:13 - Editing
00:28:38 - Getting Feedback
00:37:02 - Pressing 'Publish'
00:39:35 - Promoting the Work
00:42:38 - Considering Influence
00:59:10 - Handling Crisiticism
01:04:50 - The Devices and Apps for Writing
01:13:23 - John's Home Screen



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