Uploaded October 2023 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago

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Guest: Jesse Michels, Tech Investor, Independent Researcher, Curator & Host of American Alchemy

Host: Jay Anderson, Curator & Host of Project Unity

Watch Jesse's Documentary with David Grusch Here
youtube.com/watch?v=kRO5jOa06Qw&t=139s

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00:00 Coming Up
00:55 Introductory Chat
09:05 Jesses UFO Research
10:25 David Grusch UFO Documentary
14:01 Fringe Knowledge
18:06 How Jesse Met David Grusch
20:56 Public Perception of David
22:53 Scientific Skeptics or Paid Debunkers?
29:25 Is A New Paradigm Emerging?
36:24 Non-Local Consciousness
40:49 The Archaic Revival
47:07 Jays UFO Contact Experiences
01:06:30 Does Jay Still Attempt Contact?
01:12:17 What are UFOs Doing?
01:16:01 UFOs & High-Energy Technologies
01:19:51 The Occult Roots of Ufology
01:28:59 T. Townsend Brown
01:30:28 This Subject Isn’t Easy To Understand
01:33:14 People Don’t Care About UFOs
01:35:07 UFO PsyOps
01:40:06 Does Jay Think Retrieval Programs Exist
01:43:20 Ufology Is a Bullshit Training Ground
01:46:20 Patreon Questions
01:59:44 Ending