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In this episode of the Transforming the Church Podcast, Pastor Derwin Gray sits down with best-selling author, preacher, and church leader Hosanna Wong for an honest and hope-filled conversation about healing, grace, and leadership. Drawing from Hosanna’s powerful personal story—growing up in a family transformed by Jesus amid addiction and street life—the episode explores the urgent need for healing within the church and among its leaders.
Derwin and Hosanna discuss the dangers of unaddressed wounds, the difference between behavioral modification and true transformation, and the role of grace in overcoming shame while discussing Pastor Derwin's new book It's Time To Heal. With wisdom rooted in Scripture, real-life experiences, and neuroscience, they challenge leaders to seek healing for themselves so they can lead others from a place of authenticity and freedom. The episode highlights practical steps for embracing God’s healing, underscores the importance of inviting Jesus into our deepest pain, and offers encouragement for anyone longing to walk in wholeness.
Listeners will come away inspired to pursue genuine healing, equipped with practical insight, and reminded that the journey toward restoration begins not with self-sufficiency, but with surrender to the amazing grace of Jesus.
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In this episode of the Transforming the Church Podcast, Pastor Derwin Gray sits down with best-selling author, preacher, and church leader Hosanna Wong for an honest and hope-filled conversation about healing, grace, and leadership. Drawing from Hosanna’s powerful personal story—growing up in a family transformed by Jesus amid addiction and street life—the episode explores the urgent need for healing within the church and among its leaders.
Derwin and Hosanna discuss the dangers of unaddressed wounds, the difference between behavioral modification and true transformation, and the role of grace in overcoming shame while discussing Pastor Derwin's new book It's Time To Heal. With wisdom rooted in Scripture, real-life experiences, and neuroscience, they challenge leaders to seek healing for themselves so they can lead others from a place of authenticity and freedom. The episode highlights practical steps for embracing God’s healing, underscores the importance of inviting Jesus into our deepest pain, and offers encouragement for anyone longing to walk in wholeness.
Listeners will come away inspired to pursue genuine healing, equipped with practical insight, and reminded that the journey toward restoration begins not with self-sufficiency, but with surrender to the amazing grace of Jesus.
Follow along with our worship guide and fill out our connection card:
https://lnk.bio/transformationchurch/
If you want to partner with us to make disciples of all nations follow this link pushpay.com/g/transformationchurchsc
#TC #Transformation #Church #Upward #Inward #Outward #Transformers #Roll #Out #MultiEthnic #MultiGenerational #Mission #Shaped #Pastor #Derwin #Gray #Football #Player #Evangelist #Worship #Serve #Connect #Give #Invite #Panthers #Colts #NFL #Gospel
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Website: http://transformationchurch.tc/
Instagram: instagram.com/transformationchurch
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![What I Wish I Would Have Known Before I Became a Pastor - Part 2: Navigating Tough Conversations
Join Pastor Derwin in this insightful episode of the Transforming the Church podcast as he dives into the art of engaging in difficult conversations within ministry. Part of the series What I Wish I Would Have Known Before I Became a Pastor, this episode is packed with wisdom for anyone involved in church leadership or discipleship. Discover how character, communication, and Christ-centered security play pivotal roles in navigating challenging discussions.
Practical Things You Will Learn:
How to maintain a calm and gentle demeanor during difficult conversations.
The importance of involving others in challenging discussions to ensure clarity and accountability.
Ways to enhance your security in Christ to engage in conversations with maturity and love.
Insights from 1 Timothy 3:1-7 on the character traits essential for church leaders.
Key Moments:
[02:15] The necessity of engaging in difficult conversations in ministry
[05:30] Insights from 1 Timothy 3:1-7 on leadership character
[15:20] The importance of not having difficult conversations alone
[20:00] Being secure in Christ and its impact on communication
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