Uploaded November 2025 | Updated September 2026, 26 minutes ago

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On this Episode of WORK Underlined Erika and Su Hawn talk about the places in my journey where I’ve opted to remodel versus remake (and why it was a mistake), the challenges in re-routing the road and my grandfather being a land surveyor.

Chapters
00:00 - Welcome to WORK: Underlined
00:18 - Introducing Su Hawn and Today’s Quote
00:42 - Seth Godin on Status Quo vs Change
01:08 - Why Change Feels Hard
02:10 - Renovating the Building vs Rebuilding the Road
03:51 - When to Decide It’s Time to Change
05:13 - Lessons from Barstool and Food52
07:12 - How to Build Change at Any Level
09:05 - Creating Friction to Overcome Fear
14:32 - Final Takeaways and Closing

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