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Religion is always part of the story--even when it comes to U.S. foreign policy. Trump's decision to bomb nuclear sites in Iran, an action taken after Israel's military actions in the nation, are not simply geopolitical in their dimensions. Many Christians uncritically support the modern state of Israel because of a theological belief system called premillennial dispensationalism. Diana, Kristin, and Jemar dig into the history, the culture and the implications of this ideology. They also discuss ongoing ICE human rights abuses and the surprising projected victory of Zohran Mamdani as the Democratic Party nominee for mayor of New York City.
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Religion is always part of the story--even when it comes to U.S. foreign policy. Trump's decision to bomb nuclear sites in Iran, an action taken after Israel's military actions in the nation, are not simply geopolitical in their dimensions. Many Christians uncritically support the modern state of Israel because of a theological belief system called premillennial dispensationalism. Diana, Kristin, and Jemar dig into the history, the culture and the implications of this ideology. They also discuss ongoing ICE human rights abuses and the surprising projected victory of Zohran Mamdani as the Democratic Party nominee for mayor of New York City.
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The Convocation- convocation.substack.com
Robert P. Jones- whitetoolong.net
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Jemar Tisby- JemarTisby.Substack.com
![Is it worth engaging with Trump supporters in 2025?
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We love your comments. In fact, we led off our discussion by sharing our reflections on one particular comment. Robby shared, [This person was] finding themselves feeling a little jaded by the constant, “You wont believe what just happened now.” And same thing, day after day, after day—kind of a Groundhog Day experience, and worried about getting caught up in the negativity, not being able to think about: What do we do? How can we manage the chaos? How can we manage our own responses to it, and try to get to do something productive in the meantime? So we each shared how we approach our obligation to tell the truth—which necessarily involves a lot of “doom and gloom”—with the equally urgent call to hope and resilience. We do these live episodes once a month, and the best part for us as hosts is interacting with you in real time. So we devote about half the episode to answering your questions. We’re curious: How do you resist feeling jaded when there’s so much bad news? How are you cultivating hope and resilience? Let us know in the comments. Is it worth engaging with Trump supporters in 2025?](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BWBUNdmBr5Y/mqdefault.jpg)









