Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Michael Horton, Gavin Ortlund, and Jordan B. Cooper discuss the nature of the church, asking: Is the church visible or invisible? Does the church belong to one institution? Can Protestants be deep in history? How important are aesthetics in the church?

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00:00 - Introduction
02:53 - The Church: Visible and Invisible
08:55 - Does the church belong to one institution?
19:05 - Can Protestants be deep in history?
30:02 - How important are aesthetics in the church?