Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Bryan Johnson thinks he can outrun death. After selling his tech company for hundreds of millions of dollars and abandoning his religion, he turned his own body into the ultimate science project, centered on an explicit mission: Don’t die.
I take his mission sincerely. So for my final episode, I wanted to know: why does Johnson want to live forever, and what lessons can we draw from his optimized lifestyle?
It’s been an honor hosting this podcast and navigating these strange waters with you. “Interesting Times” will be back with new episodes and new hosts in the fall.
0:00 Why Bryan Johnson Wants to Defeat Death
1:18 The Core Premise of "Don't Die" vs. Immortality
3:26 Selling Braintree/Venmo & Personal Collapse
6:33 Leaving the Mormon Church & Searching for Meaning
7:45 Launching Project Blueprint: Body as Philosophy
11:35 Bryan Johnson’s Daily Longevity Routine & Biological Age Metrics
15:06 How AI Builds "Autonomous Health" for the Human Body
17:58 The Best Habits to Optimize Health: Sleep & Heart Rate
21:32 Blueprint Products, Supplements, & Testing
23:46 Reversing Biological Aging: Saunas & HBOT
25:24 Can Psychedelics Extend Lifespan? Psilocybin Longevity Trials
31:07 How Falling in Love Has Changed His Perspective
34:06 Diagnosed with an Incurable Autoimmune Disease
35:51 The Risk of Gerontocracy
53:53 Can Humanity Defeat Death? Societal & Philosophical Impacts
Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com.
Read the full transcript here: nytimes.com/2026/08/13/opinion/interesting-times-bryan-johnson.html
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Bryan Johnson thinks he can outrun death. After selling his tech company for hundreds of millions of dollars and abandoning his religion, he turned his own body into the ultimate science project, centered on an explicit mission: Don’t die.
I take his mission sincerely. So for my final episode, I wanted to know: why does Johnson want to live forever, and what lessons can we draw from his optimized lifestyle?
It’s been an honor hosting this podcast and navigating these strange waters with you. “Interesting Times” will be back with new episodes and new hosts in the fall.
0:00 Why Bryan Johnson Wants to Defeat Death
1:18 The Core Premise of "Don't Die" vs. Immortality
3:26 Selling Braintree/Venmo & Personal Collapse
6:33 Leaving the Mormon Church & Searching for Meaning
7:45 Launching Project Blueprint: Body as Philosophy
11:35 Bryan Johnson’s Daily Longevity Routine & Biological Age Metrics
15:06 How AI Builds "Autonomous Health" for the Human Body
17:58 The Best Habits to Optimize Health: Sleep & Heart Rate
21:32 Blueprint Products, Supplements, & Testing
23:46 Reversing Biological Aging: Saunas & HBOT
25:24 Can Psychedelics Extend Lifespan? Psilocybin Longevity Trials
31:07 How Falling in Love Has Changed His Perspective
34:06 Diagnosed with an Incurable Autoimmune Disease
35:51 The Risk of Gerontocracy
53:53 Can Humanity Defeat Death? Societal & Philosophical Impacts
Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com.
Read the full transcript here: nytimes.com/2026/08/13/opinion/interesting-times-bryan-johnson.html
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
