Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Jen Wilkin joins Matt Harmon and Ben Gladd to explain why Christians should read Revelation as a symbolic, Old-Testament-saturated book that trains believers for endurance—not escapism—and why repeated, whole-book reading is essential for understanding it.
00:00 — Why Revelation requires the Old Testament (and why avoidance hurts understanding)
00:22 — Welcome + introducing Jen Wilkin and her focus on Bible literacy
01:36 — Why Jen finally tackled Revelation (fear, baggage, and motivation to understand)
04:04 — Big-picture message of Revelation: hope that produces steadfastness
07:43 — Key approach: “look behind” the imagery (OT echoes) rather than scanning current events
08:20 — Genesis 1 as an interpretive framework: patterns of seven and creation structure
10:08 — Why Revelation’s symbols already have biblical backstories (OT saturation)
12:11 — “Symbolized” + Scripture interprets Scripture: how to read Revelation responsibly
14:09 — Throne-room example: rainbow + living creatures connected to Genesis/Noah themes
16:00 — Revelation’s aim: endurance over escapism in everyday Christian life
22:40 — Revelation 21–22: new creation, story coherence, and “they will see his face”
25:02 — Don’t force Revelation to answer timeline questions; focus on what God is doing
28:19 — Common mistake: instant/devotional-only reading; the discipline of rereading
30:30 — Whole-book exposure matters: hearing Revelation read aloud like a feature-length story
33:09 — Recommended resources and why engaging multiple views can strengthen understanding
📚 Resources Mentioned
Revelation by Jen Wilkin - amazon.com/Revelation-Access-Eternal-Everlasting-Kingdom/dp/1087776074?tag=thegospcoal-20
Revelation by G. K. Beale - amazon.com/Revelation-Commentary-G-K-Beale/dp/0802866212?tag=thegospcoal-20
All Things New by Brian Tabb - amazon.com/All-Things-New-Revelation-Canonical/dp/1783599154?tag=thegospcoal-20
Postmillennialism by Keith Mathison - amazon.com/Postmillennialism-Eschatology-Hope-Keith-Mathison/dp/0875523897?tag=thegospcoal-20
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Jen Wilkin joins Matt Harmon and Ben Gladd to explain why Christians should read Revelation as a symbolic, Old-Testament-saturated book that trains believers for endurance—not escapism—and why repeated, whole-book reading is essential for understanding it.
00:00 — Why Revelation requires the Old Testament (and why avoidance hurts understanding)
00:22 — Welcome + introducing Jen Wilkin and her focus on Bible literacy
01:36 — Why Jen finally tackled Revelation (fear, baggage, and motivation to understand)
04:04 — Big-picture message of Revelation: hope that produces steadfastness
07:43 — Key approach: “look behind” the imagery (OT echoes) rather than scanning current events
08:20 — Genesis 1 as an interpretive framework: patterns of seven and creation structure
10:08 — Why Revelation’s symbols already have biblical backstories (OT saturation)
12:11 — “Symbolized” + Scripture interprets Scripture: how to read Revelation responsibly
14:09 — Throne-room example: rainbow + living creatures connected to Genesis/Noah themes
16:00 — Revelation’s aim: endurance over escapism in everyday Christian life
22:40 — Revelation 21–22: new creation, story coherence, and “they will see his face”
25:02 — Don’t force Revelation to answer timeline questions; focus on what God is doing
28:19 — Common mistake: instant/devotional-only reading; the discipline of rereading
30:30 — Whole-book exposure matters: hearing Revelation read aloud like a feature-length story
33:09 — Recommended resources and why engaging multiple views can strengthen understanding
📚 Resources Mentioned
Revelation by Jen Wilkin - amazon.com/Revelation-Access-Eternal-Everlasting-Kingdom/dp/1087776074?tag=thegospcoal-20
Revelation by G. K. Beale - amazon.com/Revelation-Commentary-G-K-Beale/dp/0802866212?tag=thegospcoal-20
All Things New by Brian Tabb - amazon.com/All-Things-New-Revelation-Canonical/dp/1783599154?tag=thegospcoal-20
Postmillennialism by Keith Mathison - amazon.com/Postmillennialism-Eschatology-Hope-Keith-Mathison/dp/0875523897?tag=thegospcoal-20
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![Practical Effects of Big God Theology [The Everyday Pastor - Ep. 47]
What practical difference does a high view of God’s sovereignty actually make in everyday ministry?
In this episode, Ligon Duncan and Matt Smethurst reflect on the doctrines of grace—often associated with Calvinism—and explore how a “big God” theology shapes assurance, prayer, evangelism, pastoral care, and suffering. They emphasize that God’s sovereignty is not a weapon for debate but a pillow for weary saints, a stabilizer in crisis, and a source of deep humility.
From hospital rooms to anxiety, from Scripture’s storyline to church history, this conversation shows why knowing a sovereign, wise, and compassionate God is not advanced theology—it’s everyday hope.
🔗 MENTIONED
▫ Commentary on the Gospel According to John by John Calvin – https://www.amazon.com/Commentary-Gospel-According-Calvins-Commentaries/dp/B004USNAAU?tag=thegospcoal-20
▫ How to Care for Sufferers (with Joni Eareckson Tada) [The Everyday Pastor - Ep. 30] – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQ5jgEblOg
Timestamps:
0:00 — A high view of sovereignty must include kindness
1:06 — What we mean by “big God theology”
2:49 — Sovereignty and assurance of salvation
5:14 — From “bad news” to “good news”
8:24 — Pastoral wisdom in teaching contested doctrines
12:52 — The Gospel of John and perseverance
14:33 — Everyone’s a Calvinist on their knees
16:14 — Preaching sovereignty through Bible books
23:07 — Judas, Acts 1, and God’s unstoppable plan
31:22 — Holding tension in Scripture
32:08 — Joni Eareckson Tada and suffering
33:21 — A sovereign God in hospital rooms
38:19 — Seasons of revival begin with seeing God rightly
44:41 — Humility: the fruit of the doctrines of grace
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![AI and Emotion: Can Machines Feel? [Silicon Spiritualities - Ep. 5]
What does it mean when a machine says, “I understand how you feel”?
That question is no longer theoretical. We live in a world of AI companions, emotional chatbots, and wearable devices that promise to track our stress, improve our sleep, and help us manage our inner lives. Some of these tools can be genuinely useful. But the more persuasive they become, the more we need to ask: are they helping us flourish as human beings, or training us to settle for a simulation of care?
Few people are better equipped to help us think about that question than Rosalind Picard, a professor at MIT and founder of a research group at the MIT Media Lab that develops technologies designed to recognize and respond to human emotion. She has spent decades working at the cutting edge of affective computing, a discipline that she founded. But what makes this conversation especially compelling is that she is not dazzled by the rhetoric of AI, but clear-eyed about both its promise and its danger.
In this episode, Roz helps us think carefully about the difference between reading the outward signs of emotion and actually knowing a person’s inner life. She explains why AI can imitate empathy without feeling anything at all, why emotionally intelligent technologies can sometimes support human flourishing, and why companion chatbots in particular should raise alarm bells for Christians. Along the way, we talk about consciousness, embodiment, meaning, and the temptation to become, in C. S. Lewis’s phrase, “too easily pleased.”
Roz joined me on Silicon Spiritualities to ask what AI can really know about our emotions, what it can never know, and why the richest forms of love, care, and meaning can never be reduced to code.
*Resource Mentioned:* _Deep Utopia_ by Nick Bostrom - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1646871642?tag=thegospcoal-20
00:00 Welcome to Silicon Spiritualities
01:02 A teen, an AI companion, and anxiety
02:04 The danger of companion chatbots
03:48 Wearables, stress tracking, and medical validation
04:51 Sleep, anxiety, and the limits of the body
06:48 What does the Bible teach us about emotion?
07:49 Why emotions matter
08:54 Alexithymia and difficulty naming emotions
10:02 What emotional AI actually measures
13:02 Acting emotional vs. being emotional
15:53 Why the language of AI can mislead us
19:23 Do humans imitate emotions too?
20:35 Can AI empathy be useful?
23:47 Could AI become conscious?
25:33 Why Christians do not need to fear the future
26:02 Being fully known by God
30:08 Why “it meets my needs” is not enough
31:21 We are too easily pleased
33:14 Children, AI companions, and learning love
35:19 Meaning, relationships, and the limits of bots
37:00 AI as an amplifier of us
38:57 What affective computing teaches us about ourselves
40:45 The complexity of the human body
43:10 Why AI can feel like a tsunami
43:50 Why we need better language for AI
44:23 AI agents, agency, and responsibility
50:28 What would a good AI future look like?
52:01 Helpful AI that does not pretend to be human
55:59 One principle for using AI well
56:58 Are you turning off your brain?
59:00 AI that supports human relationships
1:00:22 One inefficient habit Rosalind is keeping
1:02:33 What AI reveals about Rosalind’s heart
1:03:37 Why AI keeps you asking one more question
1:03:55 Closing invitation
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