Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
We’re back for Season 2 of Builders, where we sit down with the founders, operators, and investors building the products and infrastructure shaping the next decade of technology.
This season begins with Katelyn Lesse and Angela Jiang from Anthropic’s Claude Platform, discussing the shift from human-in-the-loop AI to long-running agents.
They break down the infrastructure required to keep agents running, recover from errors, and execute work safely, and why builders should focus on differentiated product decisions rather than rebuilding the underlying agent stack.
"The more natively you can re-express it and delete your previous processes, and design from scratch, the more successful you'll end up being." — Angela Jiang
"We've had a few strategies that we've seen work really well. Use tokens for different jobs, not just executing, also advising." — Katelyn Lesse
"It's definitely a transformative timeframe where PMs have to truly do the true product bits, and they don't really have a lot of the other pieces anymore. The bets you take, the hypotheses you make, the thesis you have, it really matters in making sure you do it right." — Angela Jiang
"We have to be a team that's really ready to get punched in the face." — Katelyn Lesse
Guests: Angela Jiang, Head of Product, Anthropic and Katelyn Lesse, Head of Engineering, Anthropic
Connect with Angela Jiang
X: https://x.com/angjiang
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/angelajiang
Connect with Katelyn Lesse
X: https://x.com/katelyn_lesse?lang=en
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/katelynlesse
Connect with Josh Coyne
X: https://x.com/josh_coyne
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/joshuacoyne
Connect with Leigh Marie Braswell
X: https://x.com/LM_Braswell
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/leigh-marie-braswell
Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: kleinerperkins.com
We’re back for Season 2 of Builders, where we sit down with the founders, operators, and investors building the products and infrastructure shaping the next decade of technology.
This season begins with Katelyn Lesse and Angela Jiang from Anthropic’s Claude Platform, discussing the shift from human-in-the-loop AI to long-running agents.
They break down the infrastructure required to keep agents running, recover from errors, and execute work safely, and why builders should focus on differentiated product decisions rather than rebuilding the underlying agent stack.
"The more natively you can re-express it and delete your previous processes, and design from scratch, the more successful you'll end up being." — Angela Jiang
"We've had a few strategies that we've seen work really well. Use tokens for different jobs, not just executing, also advising." — Katelyn Lesse
"It's definitely a transformative timeframe where PMs have to truly do the true product bits, and they don't really have a lot of the other pieces anymore. The bets you take, the hypotheses you make, the thesis you have, it really matters in making sure you do it right." — Angela Jiang
"We have to be a team that's really ready to get punched in the face." — Katelyn Lesse
Guests: Angela Jiang, Head of Product, Anthropic and Katelyn Lesse, Head of Engineering, Anthropic
Connect with Angela Jiang
X: https://x.com/angjiang
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/angelajiang
Connect with Katelyn Lesse
X: https://x.com/katelyn_lesse?lang=en
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/katelynlesse
Connect with Josh Coyne
X: https://x.com/josh_coyne
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/joshuacoyne
Connect with Leigh Marie Braswell
X: https://x.com/LM_Braswell
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/leigh-marie-braswell
Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: kleinerperkins.com
