Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
On this episode I'm joined by vocalist Crystal Pak and bassist Mike Morales of the band Initiate.
We discuss their new EP 'With Love // With Rage', taking a more collaborative approach to songwriting, working with producer Zach Tuch (Knocked Loose, Movements, Stateside), the message behind the EP's artwork, almost ending the band in 2024, and loads more.
A new episode will be released every Thursday.
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FOLLOW INITIATE
X (TWITTER) | twitter.com/initiatehc
INSTAGRAM | instagram.com/initiate_hc
TIKTOK | tiktok.com/@initiatehc
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 | Intro
00:01:30 | Introducing: Crystal & Mike
00:01:43 | 'With Love // With Rage' EP
00:04:36 | EP title and lyrics
00:07:49 | Working with Zach Tuch
00:13:18 | 'Too Much' single
00:17:46 | 'Numb The Pain' and 'Alone At The Bottom'
00:18:42 | Influences on the EP
00:22:57 | Writing process and collaboration
00:30:50 | 'Future Saving Grace'
00:32:42 | EP artwork
00:34:25 | Almost ending the band in 2024
00:38:22 | Story of Outbreak Fest 2026
00:43:13 | 10 years of Initiate
00:46:29 | Vans Warped Tour
00:47:54 | Other plans for 2026 and 2027
00:49:09 | Final words
00:49:54 | Outro
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THEME MUSIC
'What Is Today, But Yesterday's Tomorrow?' by Tired Violence
#initiate #withlovewithrage #podcast #interview
On this episode I'm joined by vocalist Crystal Pak and bassist Mike Morales of the band Initiate.
We discuss their new EP 'With Love // With Rage', taking a more collaborative approach to songwriting, working with producer Zach Tuch (Knocked Loose, Movements, Stateside), the message behind the EP's artwork, almost ending the band in 2024, and loads more.
A new episode will be released every Thursday.
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SUPPORT THE PODCAST
👉 Subscribe and hit the like button
👉 Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/e36971be9577/sign-up
👉 Patreon: patreon.com/itsnotaphase
👉 Merch: its-not-a-phase.creator-spring.com
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JOIN THE COMMUNITY
DISCORD | discord.com/invite/pP6qgAsZfj
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CONTACT THE PODCAST
contact@itsnotaphase.co.uk
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FOLLOW THE PODCAST
X (TWITTER) | twitter.com/inappodcast
INSTAGRAM | instagram.com/inappod
FACEBOOK | facebook.com/inappodcast
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FOLLOW ZACH REDRUP
X (TWITTER) | twitter.com/zachredrup
INSTAGRAM | instagram.com/zachredrup
TIKTOK | tiktok.com/@zachredrup
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FOLLOW INITIATE
X (TWITTER) | twitter.com/initiatehc
INSTAGRAM | instagram.com/initiate_hc
TIKTOK | tiktok.com/@initiatehc
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 | Intro
00:01:30 | Introducing: Crystal & Mike
00:01:43 | 'With Love // With Rage' EP
00:04:36 | EP title and lyrics
00:07:49 | Working with Zach Tuch
00:13:18 | 'Too Much' single
00:17:46 | 'Numb The Pain' and 'Alone At The Bottom'
00:18:42 | Influences on the EP
00:22:57 | Writing process and collaboration
00:30:50 | 'Future Saving Grace'
00:32:42 | EP artwork
00:34:25 | Almost ending the band in 2024
00:38:22 | Story of Outbreak Fest 2026
00:43:13 | 10 years of Initiate
00:46:29 | Vans Warped Tour
00:47:54 | Other plans for 2026 and 2027
00:49:09 | Final words
00:49:54 | Outro
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THEME MUSIC
'What Is Today, But Yesterday's Tomorrow?' by Tired Violence
#initiate #withlovewithrage #podcast #interview
