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When Jesus said, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), was he claiming to be God?
No. We see Jesus use the same language of more than one person being “one” in John 17:11, indeed of believers being “one” with both Jesus and the Father. What he means is a one-ness of purpose and intention, a one-ness of unity toward the same goals.
Was it the God Jesus who prayed, “Now, Father, glorify me together with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world came to be.” No. Rather this was the prayer of the man Jesus the Christ expressing his faith in the pre-determined promise of God. Expressing trust in God’s promise, Jesus was speaking of a future reality as if it had already happened.
We see in John 17:20-24 that the Father GAVE to Jesus glory before the foundation of the world, that Jesus already had been given that glory when he was speaking, and that he already gave the same glory to others who had not yet believed in him.
Additional resources:
One God Report Podcast
open.spotify.com/show/1fJjk0QUhsyr8r9hVCgoFk
Bill Schlegel YouTube
youtube.com/@billschlegel1
Lecture: The Glory Jesus had with God
youtube.com/watch?v=LXu_2Sn4kg4
If Jesus Pre-existed, He Was Not Human
landandbible.blogspot.com/2019/06/if-jesus-pre-existed-he-wasnt-human.html
#deityofchrist, #biblicalunitarian, #John17_5, #John 10_30, #gospelofjohn
When Jesus said, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), was he claiming to be God?
No. We see Jesus use the same language of more than one person being “one” in John 17:11, indeed of believers being “one” with both Jesus and the Father. What he means is a one-ness of purpose and intention, a one-ness of unity toward the same goals.
Was it the God Jesus who prayed, “Now, Father, glorify me together with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world came to be.” No. Rather this was the prayer of the man Jesus the Christ expressing his faith in the pre-determined promise of God. Expressing trust in God’s promise, Jesus was speaking of a future reality as if it had already happened.
We see in John 17:20-24 that the Father GAVE to Jesus glory before the foundation of the world, that Jesus already had been given that glory when he was speaking, and that he already gave the same glory to others who had not yet believed in him.
Additional resources:
One God Report Podcast
open.spotify.com/show/1fJjk0QUhsyr8r9hVCgoFk
Bill Schlegel YouTube
youtube.com/@billschlegel1
Lecture: The Glory Jesus had with God
youtube.com/watch?v=LXu_2Sn4kg4
If Jesus Pre-existed, He Was Not Human
landandbible.blogspot.com/2019/06/if-jesus-pre-existed-he-wasnt-human.html
#deityofchrist, #biblicalunitarian, #John17_5, #John 10_30, #gospelofjohn
