Uploaded June 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of The David Frum Show, The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his thoughts on growing extremism in the Democratic Party. Frum compares this to the paranoia and conspiratorial thinking that cost the Republican Party dearly in the 2010s and cautions the Democrats against making the same mistakes.
Then David is joined by Kate Shaw, a co-host of the podcast Strict Scrutiny and a professor of law at University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. David and Shaw discuss the current state of the Supreme Court, whether it can be reformed, and the potential dangers of radical changes to the Court.
Finally, in honor of the class of 2026, David ends the episode with thoughts on the word graduate and how changes in the way we use that word reveal changes in our attitude toward individual accomplishment in American life.
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00:00 Introduction
00:40 Growing Extremism in the Democratic Party
04:11 Professor Kate Shaw
04:52 How Broken Is the Supreme Court?
07:33 Voting Rights Act Rollback
16:12 Records Act Fight Ahead
23:27 How to Reform the Court?
38:57 Preserving Legitimacy
44:49 Graduation Word Origins
In this episode of The David Frum Show, The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his thoughts on growing extremism in the Democratic Party. Frum compares this to the paranoia and conspiratorial thinking that cost the Republican Party dearly in the 2010s and cautions the Democrats against making the same mistakes.
Then David is joined by Kate Shaw, a co-host of the podcast Strict Scrutiny and a professor of law at University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. David and Shaw discuss the current state of the Supreme Court, whether it can be reformed, and the potential dangers of radical changes to the Court.
Finally, in honor of the class of 2026, David ends the episode with thoughts on the word graduate and how changes in the way we use that word reveal changes in our attitude toward individual accomplishment in American life.
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Subscribe to The David Frum Show on Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-david-frum-show/id1305908387
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#davidfrum #thedavidfrumshow #theatlantic #supremecourt #uspolitics
00:00 Introduction
00:40 Growing Extremism in the Democratic Party
04:11 Professor Kate Shaw
04:52 How Broken Is the Supreme Court?
07:33 Voting Rights Act Rollback
16:12 Records Act Fight Ahead
23:27 How to Reform the Court?
38:57 Preserving Legitimacy
44:49 Graduation Word Origins
