Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
In this episode Trent sits down with former agnostic Joe Schmid @MajestyofReason to discuss his reversion to Catholicism.
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00:00 Joe Schmid Returns to Catholicism
02:39 Why Joe Responded to Trent’s Arguments
05:55 Charity, Confidence, and Serious Debate
09:16 Divine Hiddenness and the Search for Truth
12:50 Joe’s Catholic Upbringing
16:10 Evolution and the First Wobble in Faith
18:36 The Problem of Evil and Deconversion
23:32 New Atheism, Skepticism, and Intellectual Pride
27:30 From Atheism to Agnosticism
29:37 Josh Rasmussen and Serious Theistic Arguments
35:35 Why Theism Became a Live Option Again
40:23 Choosing Philosophy Over Biology
44:41 Joe’s Years as an Agnostic
48:54 Fine-Tuning, Psychophysical Harmony, and Miracles
55:20 Changing the Mind vs Changing the Heart
1:00:30 Miracles, Naturalism, and the Case for God
1:04:33 Eucharistic Miracles, Lourdes, and Catholic Evidence
1:10:11 Why Joe Wasn’t Ready for Catholicism
1:13:07 The Problem of Evil and Animal Suffering
1:22:41 Fatima, Padre Pio, and the Pull Toward Catholicism
1:23:44 The Saints and the Change of Heart
1:35:12 The Call to Sainthood and Leaving Sin Behind
1:38:10 Fatima and Padre Pio as Catholic Evidence
1:42:40 Why Catholic Miracles Point to Catholicism
1:50:50 Testing Miracles by Their Fruits
1:57:22 Catholic Miracles and the Resurrection
2:01:41 What Comes Next for Joe Schmid?
2:06:11 Final Encouragement and Closing
In this episode Trent sits down with former agnostic Joe Schmid @MajestyofReason to discuss his reversion to Catholicism.
To support this channel: patreon.com/counseloftrent
[NEW] Counsel of Trent merch: shop.catholic.com/apologists-alley/trent-horn-resources
Be sure to keep up with our socials!
tiktok.com/@counseloftrent
twitter.com/counseloftrent
instagram.com/counseloftrentpodcast
00:00 Joe Schmid Returns to Catholicism
02:39 Why Joe Responded to Trent’s Arguments
05:55 Charity, Confidence, and Serious Debate
09:16 Divine Hiddenness and the Search for Truth
12:50 Joe’s Catholic Upbringing
16:10 Evolution and the First Wobble in Faith
18:36 The Problem of Evil and Deconversion
23:32 New Atheism, Skepticism, and Intellectual Pride
27:30 From Atheism to Agnosticism
29:37 Josh Rasmussen and Serious Theistic Arguments
35:35 Why Theism Became a Live Option Again
40:23 Choosing Philosophy Over Biology
44:41 Joe’s Years as an Agnostic
48:54 Fine-Tuning, Psychophysical Harmony, and Miracles
55:20 Changing the Mind vs Changing the Heart
1:00:30 Miracles, Naturalism, and the Case for God
1:04:33 Eucharistic Miracles, Lourdes, and Catholic Evidence
1:10:11 Why Joe Wasn’t Ready for Catholicism
1:13:07 The Problem of Evil and Animal Suffering
1:22:41 Fatima, Padre Pio, and the Pull Toward Catholicism
1:23:44 The Saints and the Change of Heart
1:35:12 The Call to Sainthood and Leaving Sin Behind
1:38:10 Fatima and Padre Pio as Catholic Evidence
1:42:40 Why Catholic Miracles Point to Catholicism
1:50:50 Testing Miracles by Their Fruits
1:57:22 Catholic Miracles and the Resurrection
2:01:41 What Comes Next for Joe Schmid?
2:06:11 Final Encouragement and Closing
