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Professor Paul Gilbert is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at the University of Derby, a Visiting Professor at the University of Queensland, and the founder of Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT). For more than 40 years, he has combined research into the evolutionary foundations of mental health with clinical work as a Consultant Clinical Psychologist. He also founded the Compassionate Mind Foundation in 2006 to promote the scientific understanding and application of compassion.
Professor Gilbert is regarded as one of the world's leading authorities on compassion, shame, self-criticism and mental wellbeing. In this conversation, we explore the evolutionary origins of the human mind, why we suffer psychologically, the science of compassion, consciousness, intelligence, shame, self-compassion, and what modern psychology still needs to understand about the human condition.
00:00 – What Is the Human Mind Actually For?
10:12 – Why Can Humans End Up Hating Themselves
16:56 – Have We Underestimated How Social the Human Mind Is?
20:26 – Is Modern Life Mismatched to the Human Brain?
25:52 – Why Mental Health Depends on Psychological Flexibility
31:15 – Does Greater Intelligence Mean Greater Suffering?
33:15 – Is Consciousness Inherently Painful?
38:29 – The Evolutionary Origins of Shame
44:10 – What Compassion Really Is (It's Not Just Kindness)
54:06 – Can Compassion Defeat Hatred?
58:43 – Why Self-Compassion Is So Difficult
1:06:18 – What Future Psychologists Must Understand About the Mind
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Resources from Professor Paul Gilbert:
The Compassionate Mind Foundation:
The Compassionate Mind Foundation promotes the scientific understanding and practical application of compassion to improve mental health and wellbeing. It offers workshops, training, educational resources and information about Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT).
compassionatemind.co.uk
**Support the Compassionate Mind Foundation**
If you found this conversation valuable, please consider supporting the Foundation's work through a donation:
compassionatemind.co.uk/donation
Learn more about Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT)
Evolution and Compassion Focused Therapy
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.586161/full
The Evolution of Care and Share versus Control and Hold
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.582090/full
Evolution-Informed Compassion-Focused Therapy and Buddhist Approaches to Insight Meditation
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12671-023-02141-4
Meta-analysis of Compassion Focused Therapy
Petrocchi et al. (2023): *The Impact of Compassion Focused Therapy on Positive and Negative Mental Health Outcomes.*
Professor Paul Gilbert's Talks
Creating a Compassionate World:
compassionatemind.co.uk/creating-a-compassionate-world
Evolutionary Foundations of Compassion Focused Therapy (Royal College of Psychiatrists)
youtu.be/swwFEKWoxHg
A Disorder for Everyone (AD4E):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ufp2FxoFhYQ&feature=youtu.be
Additional Resources:
The Voices Within
youtube.com/watch?v=VRqI4lxuXAw
Open-access paper
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00152/full
Disclaimer: The Freedom Pact Podcast is provided for informational and entertainment purposes only. The content is not intended to constitute, nor should it be relied upon as, medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or the podcast. Listeners should not disregard, delay, or substitute professional medical advice because of information discussed on the podcast or associated materials.
Professor Paul Gilbert is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at the University of Derby, a Visiting Professor at the University of Queensland, and the founder of Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT). For more than 40 years, he has combined research into the evolutionary foundations of mental health with clinical work as a Consultant Clinical Psychologist. He also founded the Compassionate Mind Foundation in 2006 to promote the scientific understanding and application of compassion.
Professor Gilbert is regarded as one of the world's leading authorities on compassion, shame, self-criticism and mental wellbeing. In this conversation, we explore the evolutionary origins of the human mind, why we suffer psychologically, the science of compassion, consciousness, intelligence, shame, self-compassion, and what modern psychology still needs to understand about the human condition.
00:00 – What Is the Human Mind Actually For?
10:12 – Why Can Humans End Up Hating Themselves
16:56 – Have We Underestimated How Social the Human Mind Is?
20:26 – Is Modern Life Mismatched to the Human Brain?
25:52 – Why Mental Health Depends on Psychological Flexibility
31:15 – Does Greater Intelligence Mean Greater Suffering?
33:15 – Is Consciousness Inherently Painful?
38:29 – The Evolutionary Origins of Shame
44:10 – What Compassion Really Is (It's Not Just Kindness)
54:06 – Can Compassion Defeat Hatred?
58:43 – Why Self-Compassion Is So Difficult
1:06:18 – What Future Psychologists Must Understand About the Mind
Connect with us:
freedompact.co.uk/newsletter (Healthy, Wealthy & Wise Newsletter)
Instagram.com/freedompactpod
twitter.com/freedompactpod
Email: freedompact@gmail.com (business enquiries, guest suggestions, appreciation, feedback, and anything else)
Resources from Professor Paul Gilbert:
The Compassionate Mind Foundation:
The Compassionate Mind Foundation promotes the scientific understanding and practical application of compassion to improve mental health and wellbeing. It offers workshops, training, educational resources and information about Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT).
compassionatemind.co.uk
**Support the Compassionate Mind Foundation**
If you found this conversation valuable, please consider supporting the Foundation's work through a donation:
compassionatemind.co.uk/donation
Learn more about Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT)
Evolution and Compassion Focused Therapy
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.586161/full
The Evolution of Care and Share versus Control and Hold
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.582090/full
Evolution-Informed Compassion-Focused Therapy and Buddhist Approaches to Insight Meditation
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12671-023-02141-4
Meta-analysis of Compassion Focused Therapy
Petrocchi et al. (2023): *The Impact of Compassion Focused Therapy on Positive and Negative Mental Health Outcomes.*
Professor Paul Gilbert's Talks
Creating a Compassionate World:
compassionatemind.co.uk/creating-a-compassionate-world
Evolutionary Foundations of Compassion Focused Therapy (Royal College of Psychiatrists)
youtu.be/swwFEKWoxHg
A Disorder for Everyone (AD4E):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ufp2FxoFhYQ&feature=youtu.be
Additional Resources:
The Voices Within
youtube.com/watch?v=VRqI4lxuXAw
Open-access paper
frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00152/full
Disclaimer: The Freedom Pact Podcast is provided for informational and entertainment purposes only. The content is not intended to constitute, nor should it be relied upon as, medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or the podcast. Listeners should not disregard, delay, or substitute professional medical advice because of information discussed on the podcast or associated materials.
