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"The big surprise has been China," says Spillover host Sebastian Mallaby. "Because of good reserve management, because of its statism, because of its ability to take centralized decisions, China showed that it can cut oil imports by fully fifty percent and not have a recession. That's how resilient the Chinese system is." In this episode of The Spillover, hosts Sebastian Mallaby and Rebecca Patterson discuss how China quietly built up its energy resilience ahead of and during the Iran War.
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"The big surprise has been China," says Spillover host Sebastian Mallaby. "Because of good reserve management, because of its statism, because of its ability to take centralized decisions, China showed that it can cut oil imports by fully fifty percent and not have a recession. That's how resilient the Chinese system is." In this episode of The Spillover, hosts Sebastian Mallaby and Rebecca Patterson discuss how China quietly built up its energy resilience ahead of and during the Iran War.
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