Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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I am joined by Mike Sham, an entrepreneur, political analyst and host of the State of the Nation podcast. We discuss how the different ANC presidents (Thabo Mbeki, Jacob Zuma, Cyril Ramaphosa) shaped post-Apartheid South Africa in the 21st century, Ramaphosa's "New Dawn" that never was, and the impact of ANC factionalism.

~ [Stream of Consciousness Episode 246]

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