Uploaded January 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 hours ago
Topics include: Odysseus as trickster, and where even in the Odyssey he gets 'bad press' including the episode with the Cyclops; how the absence of the story about atrocities at the end of the Trojan War draws attention to Odysseus' behavior; the contrast with Achilles and our ambivalence about Odysseus' mētis; Odysseus' behavior in the Embassy scene in Iliad; encoding of messages in the Cretan lies; Odysseus' inappropriate behavior as the guest at a feast; the relationship between nóos and nostos in episodes of the Odyssey including the journey with the Phaeacians to Ithaca; the encounter with Elpenor in Hades; the bag of winds from Aiolos; Odysseus' sleeping and waking.
Mentioned in the discussion:
Paul Radin. 1956. The Trickster: A Study in American Indian Mythology. New York.
Jar (pelike) with Odysseus and Elpenor in the Underworld,
the Lykaon Painter, about 440 BCE:
collections.mfa.org/objects/153840
Recorded in Spring 2021 during v15 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 9 and 10, and the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
Topics include: Odysseus as trickster, and where even in the Odyssey he gets 'bad press' including the episode with the Cyclops; how the absence of the story about atrocities at the end of the Trojan War draws attention to Odysseus' behavior; the contrast with Achilles and our ambivalence about Odysseus' mētis; Odysseus' behavior in the Embassy scene in Iliad; encoding of messages in the Cretan lies; Odysseus' inappropriate behavior as the guest at a feast; the relationship between nóos and nostos in episodes of the Odyssey including the journey with the Phaeacians to Ithaca; the encounter with Elpenor in Hades; the bag of winds from Aiolos; Odysseus' sleeping and waking.
Mentioned in the discussion:
Paul Radin. 1956. The Trickster: A Study in American Indian Mythology. New York.
Jar (pelike) with Odysseus and Elpenor in the Underworld,
the Lykaon Painter, about 440 BCE:
collections.mfa.org/objects/153840
Recorded in Spring 2021 during v15 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 9 and 10, and the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.










![HeroesX v14 Office Hours 01 | The Hero, the Gods, and the Superhuman
Discussion topics include: the relationship of the gods/goddesses and heroes/heroines; superhuman vs supernatural; characteristics of heroes; unseasonality and being exceptionality; agency, free will and determination; myth [mūthos] as cosmic truth; kleos of heroes and divinities; disfunctionality and immorality in the world of myth; the uniqueness of the Iliad and of Achilles; Orphic and Homeric traditions; Calliope as the Muse of kings; three Muses Mnēmē, Meletē, Aoidē; Catalogue of Ships; performance and reading as relay.
Recorded in Fall 2020 during v14 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 1 and 2, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team. HeroesX v14 Office Hours 01 | The Hero, the Gods, and the Superhuman](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vER6MhFMrfY/mqdefault.jpg)