Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago

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@forallthesaintspod has worked with some of the top podcasters, including @ChrisWillx One day, Ben was sitting with a renowned journalist, planning a podcast. Then his faith came up.

The guy looked at him and said, “I can’t believe someone like you actually believes that.”

It was not a joke. He genuinely meant it.

That moment said a lot about how people see faith in those circles.

But what happened after is what matters.

Over time, that same journalist ended up defending him and his beliefs to other people.

There was no debate. No big moment. Just how he showed up.

That is the part people miss.

Full episode is up now.