Uploaded September 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Our phones have become adult security blankets, and they’re keeping us from the real, meaningful connections we were made for.
In this episode, Grant sits down with Aro co-founder Joey Odom to talk about why we’re so addicted to our devices and, more importantly, what we can actually do about it.
Joey shares four simple habits you can start today to change your relationship with technology and reclaim your presence with family and friends.
This isn’t about demonizing tech. It’s about learning to master it — not the other way around. If you want to be a more present leader, spouse, parent, or friend, this is for you.
Find the full talk here: https://tr.ee/i6dFZAO7gB
Our phones have become adult security blankets, and they’re keeping us from the real, meaningful connections we were made for.
In this episode, Grant sits down with Aro co-founder Joey Odom to talk about why we’re so addicted to our devices and, more importantly, what we can actually do about it.
Joey shares four simple habits you can start today to change your relationship with technology and reclaim your presence with family and friends.
This isn’t about demonizing tech. It’s about learning to master it — not the other way around. If you want to be a more present leader, spouse, parent, or friend, this is for you.
Find the full talk here: https://tr.ee/i6dFZAO7gB










