Uploaded October 2025 | Updated September 2026, 6 days ago

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Make your product irresistible, and everything else will follow.

That’s the philosophy of Grant Lee, co-founder and CEO of Gamma, an AI design platform with an 'anti-PowerPoint approach', used by over 50M people.

This week on Grit, he also shares why enduring businesses aren’t one person shows, and how their deliberate hiring process shapes and strengthens company culture.

00:00 Intro
03:06 Gamma's Growth and Work Culture
09:27 The Role of AI in Gamma’s Evolution
23:25 Financial Efficiency
30:31 The Competitive Market for Talent
42:39 The AI Launch and Its Impact
01:02:50 Balancing Work and Personal Life
​01:08:28 Advice for Founders

Connect with Grant Lee
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LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/grantslee

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Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com

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