Uploaded December 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago

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David Ellefson and Joshua Toomey sit down with Michael Gilbert and Steve Conley of Flotsam and Jetsam, along with John Aquilino of Icon, for a deep dive into the Arizona metal scene. John shares the wild story of Icon being replaced by Poison at Capitol Records, reflecting on the shifting tides of ’80s rock. David looks back on Megadeth’s move to Phoenix. The guys also revisit the moment Jason Newsted joined Metallica—and why David originally didn’t think the pairing would work out.

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