Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
The team at Light has been working on minimalist phones for more than a decade. Its last device had a lot in common with a smartphone, but the newest model, the Light Flip, is something very different. Light CEO Kaiwei Tang explains why Light made a flip phone, how the world's opinion of smartphones is changing, and whether you can cure your tech problems with more tech.
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0:00 Intro
0:45 90 Seconds On The Verge
2:24 Light CEO Kai Tang
8:11 Smartphones like smoking
14:27 Flip phone as status
18:55 Hardware challenges and hinge
21:19 Pricing and service bundle
25:10 Return of single purpose gadgets
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The team at Light has been working on minimalist phones for more than a decade. Its last device had a lot in common with a smartphone, but the newest model, the Light Flip, is something very different. Light CEO Kaiwei Tang explains why Light made a flip phone, how the world's opinion of smartphones is changing, and whether you can cure your tech problems with more tech.
We have new merch! Get yours here: bit.ly/3RCikCY
0:00 Intro
0:45 90 Seconds On The Verge
2:24 Light CEO Kai Tang
8:11 Smartphones like smoking
14:27 Flip phone as status
18:55 Hardware challenges and hinge
21:19 Pricing and service bundle
25:10 Return of single purpose gadgets
28:29 Subscribe and credits
Subscribe: goo.gl/G5RXGs
Like The Verge on Facebook: goo.gl/2P1aGc
Follow on Twitter: goo.gl/XTWX61
Follow on Instagram: goo.gl/7ZeLv
Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: bit.ly/40RFRkg
The Vergecast Podcast: bit.ly/3WQDexZ
Decoder with Nilay Patel: apple.co/3v29nDc
More about our podcasts: theverge.com/podcasts
Read More: theverge.com
Community guidelines: bit.ly/2D0hlAv
Wallpapers from The Verge: bit.ly/2xQXYJr
Shop our Verge merch store here: bit.ly/4kPCmEc
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