Uploaded May 2022 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
00:00 Introduction
05:51 Part I: What is the doctrine of the ascension?
07:12 Part II: What is the problem of the ascension?
08:45 Three Christian claims as defined that seem to form a contradiction: Bodily ascension, Heaven, and Materiality
09:01 (1): Bodily Ascension
09:17 (2): Heaven
10:01 (3) Materiality
10:42 How do these three Christian claims as defined form a contradiction or inconsistent set?
14:13 Part III: Four proposed responses or solution to the potential contradiction between the Christian claims of bodily ascension, heaven and materiality as defined above
16:12 What is the first type of response to this problem: Anti-Corporealism which denies claim (1)
17:10 Anti-Incarnationalism
19:34 Naïve anti-corporealism
20:08 Manifestationism and non-manifestationism
23:00 Critiques of manifestationism and non-manifestationism
30:09 What is the second type of response to this problem? Locationalism which denies claim (2)
31:10 Contemporaneous Locationalism
33:47 Futurist Locationalism
35:36 Critique of Comtemporaneous Locationalism
38:00 Critique of Futurist Locationalism
39:55 Justin Mooney Objection to Futurist Locationalism
41:03 What is Ubiquitism and how does it solve the problem of the ascension?
45:08 Critiques of Ubiquitism
50:21 What is your solution to the problem of the ascension? Non-Local Corporealism which denies claim (3)
01:02:46 Concise summary of the problem of the ascension and the non-local corporealist solution to the problem
01:03:57 Question from Jamie Russell: How much sense, if any, does it have to make to the original audience?
01:05:38 Question by Justin Mooney: How about responding to the Pelagian worry by saying that being in a certain location is necessary, but not sufficient for being in heaven?
01:06:57 Question by Kito: Does the hyperspace solution face the technology objection? In principle, we could travel the extra spatial dimension(s). Seems like any locationalism solution faces the objection.
01:07:38 Question from Hayden Stephan
01:08:24 Question from Joseph Aggs: Could the hyperspace theory address trinitarian puzzles? Like the persons of God exist in three dimensions but are Unitarian in nature?
Cruz Davis is a PhD candidate at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. In a forthcoming paper he presents the "Problem of the Ascension of Jesus" and then evaluates various solutions. Here are some of the questions we'll be discussing. If Jesus was *physically* raised from the dead, where is his body now? If you say it's in heaven, does that mean heaven has a spatial location? If yes, does that mean it's theoretically possible to reach heaven if we just had enough advanced technology? If no, then how can Jesus have a physical resurrection body?
For more from Cruz Davis, check out his philpapers page linked below.
philpeople.org/profiles/cruz-davis-1/publications?app=530&order=added
Please consider becoming a patron. Go to patreon.com/theanalyticchristian
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00:00 Introduction
05:51 Part I: What is the doctrine of the ascension?
07:12 Part II: What is the problem of the ascension?
08:45 Three Christian claims as defined that seem to form a contradiction: Bodily ascension, Heaven, and Materiality
09:01 (1): Bodily Ascension
09:17 (2): Heaven
10:01 (3) Materiality
10:42 How do these three Christian claims as defined form a contradiction or inconsistent set?
14:13 Part III: Four proposed responses or solution to the potential contradiction between the Christian claims of bodily ascension, heaven and materiality as defined above
16:12 What is the first type of response to this problem: Anti-Corporealism which denies claim (1)
17:10 Anti-Incarnationalism
19:34 Naïve anti-corporealism
20:08 Manifestationism and non-manifestationism
23:00 Critiques of manifestationism and non-manifestationism
30:09 What is the second type of response to this problem? Locationalism which denies claim (2)
31:10 Contemporaneous Locationalism
33:47 Futurist Locationalism
35:36 Critique of Comtemporaneous Locationalism
38:00 Critique of Futurist Locationalism
39:55 Justin Mooney Objection to Futurist Locationalism
41:03 What is Ubiquitism and how does it solve the problem of the ascension?
45:08 Critiques of Ubiquitism
50:21 What is your solution to the problem of the ascension? Non-Local Corporealism which denies claim (3)
01:02:46 Concise summary of the problem of the ascension and the non-local corporealist solution to the problem
01:03:57 Question from Jamie Russell: How much sense, if any, does it have to make to the original audience?
01:05:38 Question by Justin Mooney: How about responding to the Pelagian worry by saying that being in a certain location is necessary, but not sufficient for being in heaven?
01:06:57 Question by Kito: Does the hyperspace solution face the technology objection? In principle, we could travel the extra spatial dimension(s). Seems like any locationalism solution faces the objection.
01:07:38 Question from Hayden Stephan
01:08:24 Question from Joseph Aggs: Could the hyperspace theory address trinitarian puzzles? Like the persons of God exist in three dimensions but are Unitarian in nature?
Cruz Davis is a PhD candidate at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. In a forthcoming paper he presents the "Problem of the Ascension of Jesus" and then evaluates various solutions. Here are some of the questions we'll be discussing. If Jesus was *physically* raised from the dead, where is his body now? If you say it's in heaven, does that mean heaven has a spatial location? If yes, does that mean it's theoretically possible to reach heaven if we just had enough advanced technology? If no, then how can Jesus have a physical resurrection body?
For more from Cruz Davis, check out his philpapers page linked below.
philpeople.org/profiles/cruz-davis-1/publications?app=530&order=added
Please consider becoming a patron. Go to patreon.com/theanalyticchristian
For merch and more, go to theanalyticchristian.com
