Uploaded November 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
One-time Olympic hopeful and leader-in-exile Brian Fargo is a true legend. He founded Interplay and inExile Entertainment. He’s made dozens of smash hit games like Wasteland, Battle Chess, Lost Vikings and Fallout. He’s now mastering time and space with the Newgate Clockwork Revolution. We talk sales shenanigans, AI and much more in this week’s episode.
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Featuring the music track Liberation by 505
One-time Olympic hopeful and leader-in-exile Brian Fargo is a true legend. He founded Interplay and inExile Entertainment. He’s made dozens of smash hit games like Wasteland, Battle Chess, Lost Vikings and Fallout. He’s now mastering time and space with the Newgate Clockwork Revolution. We talk sales shenanigans, AI and much more in this week’s episode.
Thank you for listening to our podcast all about video games and the amazing people who bring them to life!
Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
Find us at thefourthcurtain.com
Come join the conversation at discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
Follow us on twitter: @fourthcurtain
Featuring the music track Liberation by 505





![Patrick Söderlund and the Raiders of the Arc
💠 Season 4 Episode 2 - Patrick Söderlund 💠
We kick off Season 4 with Patrick Soderlund, CEO/founder of Embark Studios and maker of the hit Arc Raiders. Former head of DICE and Battlefield at EA, he found faster ways to build. We discuss owing the community, AI and incredible value - this week!
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Art: Paul Russel
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Featuring Liberation by 505
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Timestamps:
[00:00:00] Intro: Patrick Söderlund
[00:4:27] The recipe for games people want to play
[00:9:46] 12 years at EA and why he left
[00:13:12] What was missing: the building process
[00:15:09] Battlefront II and its launch
[00:20:24] The 100X pipeline challenge at Embark
[00:35:02] Why Arc Raiders uses robots, not humanoids
[00:50:48] Patricks measured take on AI in game development
[0:59:22] The Super Mario Bros. moment that started it all
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