Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss the events and conversations recorded in John 13. Ronn began by recommending that the "dinner" of John 13:2 recalled the supper hosted in Lazarus' home (as described in 12:1-8) a week prior to Jesus' crucifixion and not during the final Passover evening. Jesus' "new commandment" to love others (13:34) was therefore to be understood in reference to his washing of his followers' feet beyond that of the 12 disciples—likely visitors to Lazarus' home who would have been considered outsiders to the family of Israel. The episode ends by considering the evidence (both pro and con) for whether John 13-17 took place during Passover evening or the week prior.
If you have any questions to Ronn and Mike, feel free to send them to:
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Thanks again to Zac Davis for the music. Check out his music at the link below:
open.spotify.com/artist/0zAyO50ILQOQ0nj9IR23mF
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In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss the events and conversations recorded in John 13. Ronn began by recommending that the "dinner" of John 13:2 recalled the supper hosted in Lazarus' home (as described in 12:1-8) a week prior to Jesus' crucifixion and not during the final Passover evening. Jesus' "new commandment" to love others (13:34) was therefore to be understood in reference to his washing of his followers' feet beyond that of the 12 disciples—likely visitors to Lazarus' home who would have been considered outsiders to the family of Israel. The episode ends by considering the evidence (both pro and con) for whether John 13-17 took place during Passover evening or the week prior.
If you have any questions to Ronn and Mike, feel free to send them to:
questions.dcwp@gmail.com
If you have any suggestions to Mel and Rich, you can send them to:
mel.divcw@gmail.com
miqlatrich@gmail.com
Thanks again to Zac Davis for the music. Check out his music at the link below:
open.spotify.com/artist/0zAyO50ILQOQ0nj9IR23mF
Please consider supporting the Michael S. Heiser Foundation so projects such as the DCW Podcast will grow and expand as we carry on Dr. Heiser’s legacy.
michaelsheiserfoundation.org/donate
#mshfoundation #dcwpodcast #DCWP
Come check out the main website at:
sites.libsyn.com/513968
