Uploaded July 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
Tech billionaire Elon Musk is testing a new frontier: politics. In this episode, Charles Fain Lehman, Jesse Arm, Rafael Mangual, and Daniel Di Martino explore Musk’s proposed America Party — what it means for the right, why it’s gaining traction across conservative media, and whether it’s more than X posturing.
They also tackle the One Big Beautiful Bill , a trillion-dollar effort to rein in spending without touching Social Security or Medicare. Is it serious reform, or just another political stunt? Plus: July Fourth, national identity, and the conservative fight to reclaim America’s founding story.
"This is a move towards an America that cares more about its fiscal future." – Jesse Arm
"We are just kicking the can down the road without touching Medicare and Social Security" – Rafael Mangual
Charles F. Lehman: https://x.com/CharlesFLehman
Jesse Leg: https://x.com/Jesse_Leg
Rafael A. Mangual: https://x.com/Rafa_Mangual
Daniel Di Martino: https://x.com/DanielDiMartino
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01:20 Trump Signs the One Big Beautiful Bill
07:45 What’s Inside the Bill?
15:30 Fiscal Pivot or Flashy Politics?
22:15 Will Voters Notice?
26:30 What’s Next for the GOP?
34:00 Elon’s America Party
39:50 Can Third Parties Matter?
Tech billionaire Elon Musk is testing a new frontier: politics. In this episode, Charles Fain Lehman, Jesse Arm, Rafael Mangual, and Daniel Di Martino explore Musk’s proposed America Party — what it means for the right, why it’s gaining traction across conservative media, and whether it’s more than X posturing.
They also tackle the One Big Beautiful Bill , a trillion-dollar effort to rein in spending without touching Social Security or Medicare. Is it serious reform, or just another political stunt? Plus: July Fourth, national identity, and the conservative fight to reclaim America’s founding story.
"This is a move towards an America that cares more about its fiscal future." – Jesse Arm
"We are just kicking the can down the road without touching Medicare and Social Security" – Rafael Mangual
Charles F. Lehman: https://x.com/CharlesFLehman
Jesse Leg: https://x.com/Jesse_Leg
Rafael A. Mangual: https://x.com/Rafa_Mangual
Daniel Di Martino: https://x.com/DanielDiMartino
Get the best of City Journal, delivered weekly:
city-journal.org/email-alerts
01:20 Trump Signs the One Big Beautiful Bill
07:45 What’s Inside the Bill?
15:30 Fiscal Pivot or Flashy Politics?
22:15 Will Voters Notice?
26:30 What’s Next for the GOP?
34:00 Elon’s America Party
39:50 Can Third Parties Matter?
