Drug or Medicine? Lessons From Experience w/ Caitlyn, Erick, and Kyle @AubreyMarcusPod
Drug or Medicine? Lessons From Experience w/ Caitlyn, Erick, and Kyle  @AubreyMarcusPod
Uploaded August 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
It has become safe in the mainstream to discuss the sacred or medical use of psychedelic medicine. But that’s not the whole story. There are drugs and medicines being used all the time, and no one except for comics are talking about it from a lens of experience. This doesn’t make it less dangerous, it makes it more dangerous. Today I am joined by veterans of the game: Caitlyn Howe, Erick Godsey, Kyle Kingsbury for a deep dive tell-all, as we discuss our comprehensive personal experiences with altered states of consciousness through a pre-tragic, tragic, and post-tragic lens. In this completely uncensored conversation, we discuss the lessons we’ve learned along the way and the vision we share for a new kind of container for celebration and ecstasis, made manifest in our upcoming production of ⁠Arkadia Festival⁠.

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Time Stamps:
00:00- Intro & Disclaimer
6:40– Pre-Tragic & Tragic Drug Experiences (Personal Stories)
51:32 – Drugs vs. Medicines (Nuance)
1:02:37 – Party With Your 3rd Eye Open | Peer Pressure
1:08:13 – Post-Tragic Experiences (Personal Stories)
1:18:29 – The Drive To Change Our State Of Consciousness
1:21:07 – Burning Man & Arkadia | A More Beautiful World
1:27:51 – Why Las Vegas?
1:39:30 – When Is It Medicine?
1:50:45 – Our Invitation

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Connect with Erick Godsey:
Website | ⁠⁠erickgodsey.com/⁠⁠
Instagram | ⁠⁠instagram.com/erickgodzey/⁠⁠

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