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Article by Frank Turek: During a radio debate I had with an atheist recently, I pointed out that the universe had a beginning and thus needs a cause. He responded by claiming that since there was no space or time prior to the creation event we shouldn’t appeal to the law of causality to claim that the creation event was caused. CONT'D: crossexamined.org/causality-apply-outside-space-time
Article by Frank Turek: During a radio debate I had with an atheist recently, I pointed out that the universe had a beginning and thus needs a cause. He responded by claiming that since there was no space or time prior to the creation event we shouldn’t appeal to the law of causality to claim that the creation event was caused. CONT'D: crossexamined.org/causality-apply-outside-space-time



![Alexander Vilenkin Says William Lane Craig is Right About BGV Theorem
Read all about Lawrence Krauss lie about William Lane Craig and the BGV Theorem:
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/honesty-transparency-full-disclosure-and-bgv-theorem
Alexander Vilenkin (an agnostic) has become a nightmare to atheists (like Victor Stenger and Lawrence Krauss) because his BGV Theorem (Borde Guth Vilenkin Theorem) has shown that the universe must have a beginning no matter what scientific model you propose (like a multiverse, cyclic ekpyrotic model, quantum vacuum fluctuation models, etc.). The reaction to Vilenkins BGV Theorem has led many atheists to deliberately take him out of context in order to make it look like he didnt say what he meant! Much to his embarrassment, Victor Stenger received an email from Vilenkin that told him (Stenger) he believed the universe had a beginning [1]. Lawrence Krauss (in his debate with William Lane Craig) deliberately and shamelessly deleted portions of an email he received from Vilenkin and tried to make it look like Vilenkin believed the universe may not have had a beginning. However, Vilenkins private email to Krauss was made public and it showed that Vilenkin argued that the universe indeed had a beginning [2]. Incidentally, William Lane Craig debated both Stenger and Krauss. Stenger and Krauss accused Craig of misrepresenting Vilenkin. Well, Vilenkin doesnt think so. Its no surprise Vilenkin said this to Craig: I think you represented what I wrote about the BGV theorem in my papers and to you personally very accurately [3]. Stenger and Krauss both refuse to apologize to Craig and Vilenkin.
Notes:
1. Atheist Peter Millican put himself in a world of hurt by using Victor Stenger as his source on Alexander Vilenkin and the BGV Theorem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARsDRtTT_cU
And:
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/current-cosmology-and-the-beginning-of-the-universe
2. This must-read article proves that Lawrence Krauss deleted portions of Alexander Vilenkins E-mail to make it look like he said something he didnt mean (Krauss tactic here warrants faculty investigation; possibly suspension):
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/honesty-transparency-full-disclosure-and-bgv-theorem
And:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkvckQG71oc
3. http://www.reasonablefaith.org/honesty-transparency-full-disclosure-and-bgv-theorem Alexander Vilenkin Says William Lane Craig is Right About BGV Theorem](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IbOh6aJrIYI/mqdefault.jpg)






