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![Your Phone Is More Dangerous Than Any Data Center
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Zuby sits down with Jeremy Ryan Slate to talk about the growing overlap between technology and government control. Jeremy points to the data collected through smartphones as a form of surveillance more powerful than anything a data center could offer, and draws a comparison between the fall of Rome and Chinas social credit system as models for where unchecked centralized control can lead. He also discusses how Elon Musks purchase of Twitter forced platforms like Meta and Google to walk back censorship policies that intensified during the pandemic, and explores how Rome might have used modern technology, tracking transactions and controlling speech, to delay its own collapse rather than prevent it. A wide-ranging conversation about censorship, currency, and how historys mistakes could repeat with modern tools attached.
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