Discover the surprising origins of conversion therapy and its deep roots in the Adventist Church @RachelBernsteinLMFT
Discover the surprising origins of conversion therapy and its deep roots in the Adventist Church  @RachelBernsteinLMFT
Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein speaks with Melissa Duge Spiers, who talks about growing up inside the Seventh-day Adventist Church — and the hidden cost of its end-times, high-control culture. Her book, ‘Holy Disobedience: Sex, Sin, and Secrets in the Biggest Church No One Knows,’ traces Adventism's roots back to the 1840s Millerite movement and the visions of prophet Ellen White, whose experiences Spiers connects to traumatic brain injury and temporal lobe epilepsy.

Melissa unpacks how information control, purity culture, and anti-LGBTQ teachings shaped her patriarchal, fear-based upbringing, and how those same dynamics played out in the church's boarding academies. She shares what it took to leave at 18, the devastating discovery that followed about her own father, and how that truth cracked open a much deeper reckoning with everything she'd been taught. This conversation covers religious trauma, institutional betrayal, and how social media is helping ex-Adventists find each other and speak out.
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Discover the surprising origins of conversion therapy and its deep roots in the Adventist Church

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