Leaving the Message | Detangling IHOPKC: Hidden Dangers of a Doomsday Cult - With Jed Hartley - Episode 208 Podcast @LeavingtheMessage | Uploaded October 2024 | Updated October 2024, 11 hours ago.
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John invites Jed Hartley to "detangle" IHOPKC. Both share personal stories of how their upbringing in a doomsday cult shaped their worldview, their identity, and their spiritual journey, particularly the psychological toll of believing that the end of the world was imminent. They delve into the damaging effects of these apocalyptic beliefs, the constant sense of urgency, and the tension between grandiose expectations and the mundane realities of life.
As the discussion unfolds, it becomes clear that the speakers grapple with the lingering impact of their time in these environments, especially how it influenced their sense of self-worth, relationships, and their pursuit of meaning after leaving the group. The transcript touches on the role of ego in apocalyptic religious communities, the dangers of believing oneself to be a central figure in God’s plan, and the challenges of disentangling from such deeply embedded beliefs. Ultimately, it highlights the complex process of healing, learning humility, and redefining one’s faith or lack thereof after such formative experiences.
00:00 Introduction
02:00 Personal Background and Growing Up in Apocalyptic Communities
04:00 The Influence of Apocalyptic Beliefs on Childhood and Parenting
06:00 Discussion on Apocalyptic Cults and Their Psychological Impact
09:00 Doomsday Cult Mindset and Theological Differences
12:00 Questioning End-Times Theology After Leaving the Cult
15:00 Reflections on the International House of Prayer’s Prophetic Promises
20:00 British Israelism and the Pentecostal Movement’s Apocalyptic Focus
26:00 The Role of Ego in Apocalyptic Religious Movements
30:00 Coping with Guilt and Self-Inflicted Pressure
36:00 The False Promises of Prophecy and Personal Disillusionment
41:00 Rewriting Religious Texts to Fit Apocalyptic Narratives
46:00 The Psychological Toll of Leaving a High-Control Religious Group
50:00 Struggles with Boredom, Loneliness, and Urgency After Leaving
54:00 Learning to Embrace Normalcy After a Life of Apocalyptic Expectation
1:00:00 Closing Thoughts on Healing and Moving Forward
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Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
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John invites Jed Hartley to "detangle" IHOPKC. Both share personal stories of how their upbringing in a doomsday cult shaped their worldview, their identity, and their spiritual journey, particularly the psychological toll of believing that the end of the world was imminent. They delve into the damaging effects of these apocalyptic beliefs, the constant sense of urgency, and the tension between grandiose expectations and the mundane realities of life.
As the discussion unfolds, it becomes clear that the speakers grapple with the lingering impact of their time in these environments, especially how it influenced their sense of self-worth, relationships, and their pursuit of meaning after leaving the group. The transcript touches on the role of ego in apocalyptic religious communities, the dangers of believing oneself to be a central figure in God’s plan, and the challenges of disentangling from such deeply embedded beliefs. Ultimately, it highlights the complex process of healing, learning humility, and redefining one’s faith or lack thereof after such formative experiences.
00:00 Introduction
02:00 Personal Background and Growing Up in Apocalyptic Communities
04:00 The Influence of Apocalyptic Beliefs on Childhood and Parenting
06:00 Discussion on Apocalyptic Cults and Their Psychological Impact
09:00 Doomsday Cult Mindset and Theological Differences
12:00 Questioning End-Times Theology After Leaving the Cult
15:00 Reflections on the International House of Prayer’s Prophetic Promises
20:00 British Israelism and the Pentecostal Movement’s Apocalyptic Focus
26:00 The Role of Ego in Apocalyptic Religious Movements
30:00 Coping with Guilt and Self-Inflicted Pressure
36:00 The False Promises of Prophecy and Personal Disillusionment
41:00 Rewriting Religious Texts to Fit Apocalyptic Narratives
46:00 The Psychological Toll of Leaving a High-Control Religious Group
50:00 Struggles with Boredom, Loneliness, and Urgency After Leaving
54:00 Learning to Embrace Normalcy After a Life of Apocalyptic Expectation
1:00:00 Closing Thoughts on Healing and Moving Forward
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