Uploaded April 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
DEI is under serious threat in a "post-Woke" world.
Is it still relevant? Does it have to lead to shame?
Can we promote diversity without creating zero-sum dynamics of winners and losers?
Today's guest, Winitha Bonney, takes on DEI challenges with a clear and compassionate worldview grounded in empathy.
Which, in her telling, is what DEI is all about.
Ms Bonney helps me understand the importance of cultural context, the challenges of navigating discomfort and shame, and the ethical obligations of organizations to create a more just and inclusive world.
Production Note: For some reason, Ms Bonney's camera drops out of a bunch of this interview, which is annoying, but not a reason for me not to publish. I hope it doesn't keep you from enjoying and learning :)
DEI is under serious threat in a "post-Woke" world.
Is it still relevant? Does it have to lead to shame?
Can we promote diversity without creating zero-sum dynamics of winners and losers?
Today's guest, Winitha Bonney, takes on DEI challenges with a clear and compassionate worldview grounded in empathy.
Which, in her telling, is what DEI is all about.
Ms Bonney helps me understand the importance of cultural context, the challenges of navigating discomfort and shame, and the ethical obligations of organizations to create a more just and inclusive world.
Production Note: For some reason, Ms Bonney's camera drops out of a bunch of this interview, which is annoying, but not a reason for me not to publish. I hope it doesn't keep you from enjoying and learning :)










