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Gm! This week, Rebecca Rettig and Alexander Grieve join Jason to unpack the successful crypto week and the 3 pieces of legislation that have passed and will now impact the way stablecoins and crypto move forward in the US landscape.
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SKALE is the next evolution in Layer 1 blockchains with a gas-free invisible user experience, instant finality, high speed, and robust security. SKALE is built different as it allows for limitless scalability and has already saved its 50 Million users over $11 Billion in gas fees.
SKALE is high-performance and cost-effective, making it ideal for compute-intensive applications like AI, gaming, and consumer-facing dApps. Learn more at https://skale.space and stay up to date with the gas-free invisible blockchain on X at @skalenetwork
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Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users.
Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates]
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Mantle is building the financial infrastructure for a tokenised future—bridging traditional finance and on-chain innovation through six integrated product pillars: Mantle Network, mETH Protocol, Function BTC, and the upcoming launches of MantleX, Mantle Banking, and the Mantle Index Four (MI4) Fund. Anchored by one of the largest community-governed treasuries in the industry, valued at over $4 billion, Mantle is delivering institutional-grade products designed for global capital markets.
Follow Mantle on X: https://x.com/Mantle_Official
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Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network.
The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC is now live.
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Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans since 2018 and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets, earning a reputation as the name you can trust in the crypto space.
Visit ledn.io to learn more.
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Chapters:
01:55 Crypto Week Breakdown
06:04 GENIUS Act
26:04 Ads (Skale, Katana)
27:51 CLARITY Act
38:31 CLARITY Act + ICOs
42:42 Ads (Skale, Katana)
44:29 CLARITY Act + DeFi
55:11 Ads (Mantle, Zenrock, ,LEDN)
57:41 ANTI-CBDC Act
01:01:13 Impacts Of These Bills
01:04:21 Biggest Debates On Bills
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
Gm! This week, Rebecca Rettig and Alexander Grieve join Jason to unpack the successful crypto week and the 3 pieces of legislation that have passed and will now impact the way stablecoins and crypto move forward in the US landscape.
--
Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross.
Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts
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Follow Rebecca: https://x.com/RebeccaRettig1
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SKALE is the next evolution in Layer 1 blockchains with a gas-free invisible user experience, instant finality, high speed, and robust security. SKALE is built different as it allows for limitless scalability and has already saved its 50 Million users over $11 Billion in gas fees.
SKALE is high-performance and cost-effective, making it ideal for compute-intensive applications like AI, gaming, and consumer-facing dApps. Learn more at https://skale.space and stay up to date with the gas-free invisible blockchain on X at @skalenetwork
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Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users.
Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates]
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Mantle is building the financial infrastructure for a tokenised future—bridging traditional finance and on-chain innovation through six integrated product pillars: Mantle Network, mETH Protocol, Function BTC, and the upcoming launches of MantleX, Mantle Banking, and the Mantle Index Four (MI4) Fund. Anchored by one of the largest community-governed treasuries in the industry, valued at over $4 billion, Mantle is delivering institutional-grade products designed for global capital markets.
Follow Mantle on X: https://x.com/Mantle_Official
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Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network.
The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC is now live.
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Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans since 2018 and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets, earning a reputation as the name you can trust in the crypto space.
Visit ledn.io to learn more.
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Chapters:
01:55 Crypto Week Breakdown
06:04 GENIUS Act
26:04 Ads (Skale, Katana)
27:51 CLARITY Act
38:31 CLARITY Act + ICOs
42:42 Ads (Skale, Katana)
44:29 CLARITY Act + DeFi
55:11 Ads (Mantle, Zenrock, ,LEDN)
57:41 ANTI-CBDC Act
01:01:13 Impacts Of These Bills
01:04:21 Biggest Debates On Bills
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.


![Klarna Launches A Stablecoin, Hyperliquid Perps & The Prediction Market Wars | Weekly Roundup
This week, were back to discuss the top stories of the week. We deep dive into Klarnas stablecoin launch, the state of crypto VC, where to allocate in crypto today, Hyperliquids launch of equity perps & more. Enjoy!
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Jeff Yass - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU9N75Fe1yU
Part 1: My Life Is a Lie - https://www.yesigiveafig.com/p/part-1-my-life-is-a-lie?publication_id=1272022&post_id=179492574&isFreemail=false&r=5205r&triedRedirect=true
Competition is for Losers with Peter Thiel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fx5Q8xGU8k
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GEODNET is the world’s largest RTK network, delivering real-time, centimeter-level precision for drones, robots, farmers, and first responders. Recognized by the U.S. Congress, this blockchain-powered network supports mission-critical applications across a wide range of industries.
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00:00 Intro
07:14 Klarna Launches KlarnaUSD
17:25 Ads (Zcash, Katana)
18:41 Where To Allocate In Crypto?
41:03 The State of Crypto VC
44:16 Ads (Zcash, Katana)
45:32 The Prediction Market Wars
57:28 Ads (VanEck, Geodnet, Uniswap)
59:50 Hyperliquid Launches Equity Perps
01:07:21 Coinbase To Acquire Vector.fun
01:18:00 Berachain & Nova Digital’s $25 Million Refund Right
01:26:41 Content of The Week
Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. Klarna Launches A Stablecoin, Hyperliquid Perps & The Prediction Market Wars | Weekly Roundup](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G0NvMFXq9HI/mqdefault.jpg)
![DAS Takeaways, Crypto’s Largest Liquidation Ever & Have We Peaked? | Weekly Roundup
This week, we break down the fallout from crypto’s largest-ever liquidation event. We deep dive into the problem with cryptos market structure, has the DAT bubble burst, Binances listing process, takeaways from DAS & more. Enjoy!
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peaq is home to 60+ apps across 20+ industries and millions of devices, machines, and onchain robots.
It powers the world’s first tokenized robo-farm, launching soon in Hong Kong, and has launched the Machine Economy Free Zone in Dubai as a Web3 x Robotics x AI innovation hub.
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Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users.
Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [https://app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates]
00:00 Introduction
01:17 DAS Takeaways
05:36 Crypto’s Largest Liquidation Ever
13:37 Ads (Blockdaemon, Peaq)
14:47 Perps, Crypto Liquidity & Market Structure
27:15 Ads (Blockdaemon, Peaq)
28:26 Binance’s Listing Process
43:43 Ads (Katana)
44:29 The DAT Bubble Has Burst
57:00 Has This Cycle Peaked?
01:05:20 Deals of The Week
Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. DAS Takeaways, Crypto’s Largest Liquidation Ever & Have We Peaked? | Weekly Roundup](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GFIQH7u8Yko/mqdefault.jpg)


![The Crypto Treasury Playbook
Gm! Ben Forman and Josh Solesbury from ParaFi Capital join Yano for this episode to dive into all the details, developments, the good and the bad and the future for publicly traded crypto vehicles!
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SKALE is the next evolution in Layer 1 blockchains with a gas-free invisible user experience, instant finality, high speed, and robust security. SKALE is built different as it allows for limitless scalability and has already saved its 50 Million users over $11 Billion in gas fees.
SKALE is high-performance and cost-effective, making it ideal for compute-intensive applications like AI, gaming, and consumer-facing dApps. Learn more at https://skale.space and stay up to date with the gas-free invisible blockchain on X at @skalenetwork
Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users.
Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [https://app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates]
Mantle is building the financial infrastructure for a tokenised future—bridging traditional finance and on-chain innovation through six integrated product pillars: Mantle Network, mETH Protocol, Function BTC, and the upcoming launches of MantleX, Mantle Banking, and the Mantle Index Four (MI4) Fund. Anchored by one of the largest community-governed treasuries in the industry, valued at over $4 billion, Mantle is delivering institutional-grade products designed for global capital markets.
Follow Mantle on X: https://x.com/Mantle_Official
Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network.
The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC is now live.
Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans since 2018 and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets, earning a reputation as the name you can trust in the crypto space.
Visit https://www.ledn.io to learn more.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:58 Parafi Investor Letter
02:54 Digital Asset Treasuries Overview Today
10:10 Ads (Skale, Katana)
11:57 Why Q2 + Q3 For Public Crypto Treasuries?
17:09 Largest Convertible Issuer
23:51 Scale of Public Crypto Treasury Vehicles
25:23 Ads (Skale, Katana)
27:11 Green Flags To Launch A Treasury Company
40:00 Reputational Risks
43:25 Why dont Treasury vehicles Impact native token price action
51:26 Ads (Mantle, Zenrock, ,LEDN)
53:56 Crypto Treasury Vehicles For Top 50
01:01:05 Low Capital Market Crypto Liquidity
01:03:15 Top Signals
01:10:09 The End Game
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. The Crypto Treasury Playbook](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H86jVMqyr-w/mqdefault.jpg)


![Winners & Losers From PUMP’S ICO With Santi & Rob Hadick | Weekly Roundup
Happy Friday! On this roundup, Rob Hadick joins Santi and Yano again this week to discuss PUMP’S ICO, the future of creator driven revenue online, drama at Polymarket, where the best builders are today in the industry and how Agora is elevating stablecoins!
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GEODNET is the world’s largest RTK network, delivering real-time, centimeter-level precision for drones, robots, farmers, and first responders. Recognized by the U.S. Congress, this blockchain-powered network supports mission-critical applications across a wide range of industries.
Discover how GEODNET is changing the world: [https://geodnet.com]
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Mantle is building the financial infrastructure for a tokenised future—bridging traditional finance and on-chain innovation through six integrated product pillars: Mantle Network, mETH Protocol, Function BTC, and the upcoming launches of MantleX, Mantle Banking, and the Mantle Index Four (MI4) Fund. Anchored by one of the largest community-governed treasuries in the industry, valued at over $4 billion, Mantle is delivering institutional-grade products designed for global capital markets.
Follow Mantle on X: https://x.com/Mantle_Official
Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network.
The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC is now live.
Citrea is the first zero-knowledge rollup to enhance the capabilities of Bitcoin blockspace and enable Bitcoin applications (₿apps). Citrea is optimistically verified by Bitcoin, offering the most Bitcoin-secured and native way to extend BTC’s utility to DeFi.
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Follow Citrea on X/Twitter for the latest on its journey to mainnet: https://x.com/citrea_xyz
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:07 Pump ICO
12:52 Ads (Geodnet, Bitwise)
14:29 Creator Strategy
23:55 Pump’s Revenue Clarity
26:31 Solana’s Future
29:40 Where Are The Best Builders?
35:45 Ads (Geodnet, Bitwise)
37:22 Acquisitions
48:24 Ads (Mantle, Zenrock, ,Citrea)
50:42 Zelensky Suit Polymarket Drama
01:00:27 Agora
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. Winners & Losers From PUMP’S ICO With Santi & Rob Hadick | Weekly Roundup](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ia3w8NVBZn0/mqdefault.jpg)
![Macro Updates, Industry Narratives & Big Tech Coming For Crypto | PERMISSIONLESS IV Recap Bonus Ep.
This week, were excited to share with our community a bonus episode which recaps PERMISSIONLESS IV, which just took place this past week in Brooklyn, NY. While Santi and Jason are not in this episode, the episode does feature some of the biggest names in the Blockworks podcast family and we hope you enjoy all the alpha!
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SKALE is the next evolution in Layer 1 blockchains with a gas-free invisible user experience, instant finality, high speed, and robust security. SKALE is built different as it allows for limitless scalability and has already saved its 50 Million users over $11 Billion in gas fees.
SKALE is high-performance and cost-effective, making it ideal for compute-intensive applications like AI, gaming, and consumer-facing dApps. Learn more at https://skale.space and stay up to date with the gas-free invisible blockchain on X at @skalenetwork
Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users.
Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [https://app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates]
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Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans since 2018 and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets, earning a reputation as the name you can trust in the crypto space.
Visit https://www.ledn.io to learn more.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:21 Permissionless IV Takeaways
07:21 Big Industry Narrartives & Themes
12:24 Ads (Katana)
13:28 Stablecoins’ Future
19:05 Macro Outlook
22:08 Ads (Katana)
23:12 Big Tech Overloads
31:03 Predictions We Made That Were Wrong
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. Macro Updates, Industry Narratives & Big Tech Coming For Crypto | PERMISSIONLESS IV Recap Bonus Ep.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IgqYQgi2s0A/mqdefault.jpg)