Uploaded November 2019 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Shaun Chamberlin speaks to Permaculture Magazine's editor, Maddy Harland about dark optimism, a way to find joy and process grief in our current culture of extinction so that we can be more empowered and alive.

For more on Shaun's work visit: darkoptimism.org

Filmed at Hawkwood’s Seed Festival in Stroud, which celebrates courageous climate leadership, creative expression and innovation in partnership with our natural world. Speakers, music, workshops, talks and more. seedfestival.co.uk

For info on permaculture, and how it can help you live a natural, ethical and earth-friendly lifestyle, visit: permaculture.co.uk