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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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[00:00] A Fear Setting Preview.
[00:39] Challenge Accepted: The logline and why breakdowns stay in the edit.
[02:50] Growing up in Shreveport, LA: Movies, the AFI Top 100, and interning on Snitch.
[06:34] Podcasting: More work than meets the ear.
[18:43] Quality over quantity: 8–10 episodes a year, scarcity as strategy, and building a defensible moat.
[29:14] "Hard choices, easy life" — Jerzy Gregorek, calling the FAA 300 times, and why no one copies you when the barrier is insanity.
[33:11] Dartmouth to Google.org: the Fermi estimation faceplant and not getting the job.
[34:46] BuzzFeed as graduate school of the internet.
[38:16] My case against starting a company right out of school.
[41:57] The stolen book: Michelle pulls out a battered 2016 copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and reads her fear-setting chart aloud.
[45:43] "I've never designed my own rubric of success" — the nightmare, the repair plan, and what Michelle was putting off out of fear.
[51:35] Practicing poverty
[1:01:45] Kebab-shop destiny: meeting stunt coordinator Steve Brown in L.A. — now he does Avatar and straps Michelle to planes.
[1:03:48] Surface area for luck: Bill Gurley, Kevin Kelly's sleeping bag, and Seneca on voluntary discomfort.
[1:07:27] Coach, mentor, cheerleader: the three-person Formula One team you actually need.
[1:12:02] The art of the cold email — and cold-calling the FBI tip line to meet "The Hollywood Guy."
[1:16:33] Michelle's three-paragraph, six-sentence formula for emails that open any door.
[1:20:58] Tim's cold email playbook: the "via" trick, include your damn cell number, and why "Yo, Ferriss" is an auto-archive.
[1:31:06] The fake Tim Ferriss Podcast phishing scam: Zoom calls, screen access, and hijacked Facebook pages.
[1:35:46] Emailing Hank Green, Brandon Sanderson's unpublished novels, and why your first cold emails are just practice reps.
[1:41:32] Michelle's storytelling syllabus: Survivor, Snyder's Save the Cat, and peer review of whatever went viral last week.
[1:43:46] Jeff Probst: The GOAT host and secret Einstein of reality television.
[1:48:16] John McPhee's red-ink writing class at Princeton.
[1:53:54] Six Thinking Hats broke Michelle's pessimism; Radical Candor taught her how to give feedback.
[2:02:46] The slinky org chart: Seven full-timers that balloon to 50 for a shoot, then compress right back.
[2:17:13] Scope creep, saying no to big checks, and why Michelle has never hit creator burnout.
[2:26:49] My No Book teaser: 850 pages on renegotiating commitments and getting back on the wagon.
[2:29:55] The Mindy Kaling manifesto: @MindyKalingFan, The Office, and shattering expectations for Indian women in entertainment.
[2:37:19] Wishlist shout-out: Norland College, where Mary Poppins meets Secret Service.
[2:39:26] Episodes Michelle would pay to relive.
[2:44:24] Episodes Michelle would pay to skip.
[2:49:00] Seven marathons, seven continents, one week.
[2:54:06] Free Solo, Alex Honnold in the creepy van, and things both of us would never do.
[2:57:37] Books gifted most: Radical Candor, The Great CEO Within, and Adam Grant's Originals.
[2:58:21] Michelle's billboard.
[2:59:45] A primetime Emmy run and parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
Follow Michelle: @MichelleKhare
This episode is brought to you by:
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[00:00] A Fear Setting Preview.
[00:39] Challenge Accepted: The logline and why breakdowns stay in the edit.
[02:50] Growing up in Shreveport, LA: Movies, the AFI Top 100, and interning on Snitch.
[06:34] Podcasting: More work than meets the ear.
[18:43] Quality over quantity: 8–10 episodes a year, scarcity as strategy, and building a defensible moat.
[29:14] "Hard choices, easy life" — Jerzy Gregorek, calling the FAA 300 times, and why no one copies you when the barrier is insanity.
[33:11] Dartmouth to Google.org: the Fermi estimation faceplant and not getting the job.
[34:46] BuzzFeed as graduate school of the internet.
[38:16] My case against starting a company right out of school.
[41:57] The stolen book: Michelle pulls out a battered 2016 copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and reads her fear-setting chart aloud.
[45:43] "I've never designed my own rubric of success" — the nightmare, the repair plan, and what Michelle was putting off out of fear.
[51:35] Practicing poverty
[1:01:45] Kebab-shop destiny: meeting stunt coordinator Steve Brown in L.A. — now he does Avatar and straps Michelle to planes.
[1:03:48] Surface area for luck: Bill Gurley, Kevin Kelly's sleeping bag, and Seneca on voluntary discomfort.
[1:07:27] Coach, mentor, cheerleader: the three-person Formula One team you actually need.
[1:12:02] The art of the cold email — and cold-calling the FBI tip line to meet "The Hollywood Guy."
[1:16:33] Michelle's three-paragraph, six-sentence formula for emails that open any door.
[1:20:58] Tim's cold email playbook: the "via" trick, include your damn cell number, and why "Yo, Ferriss" is an auto-archive.
[1:31:06] The fake Tim Ferriss Podcast phishing scam: Zoom calls, screen access, and hijacked Facebook pages.
[1:35:46] Emailing Hank Green, Brandon Sanderson's unpublished novels, and why your first cold emails are just practice reps.
[1:41:32] Michelle's storytelling syllabus: Survivor, Snyder's Save the Cat, and peer review of whatever went viral last week.
[1:43:46] Jeff Probst: The GOAT host and secret Einstein of reality television.
[1:48:16] John McPhee's red-ink writing class at Princeton.
[1:53:54] Six Thinking Hats broke Michelle's pessimism; Radical Candor taught her how to give feedback.
[2:02:46] The slinky org chart: Seven full-timers that balloon to 50 for a shoot, then compress right back.
[2:17:13] Scope creep, saying no to big checks, and why Michelle has never hit creator burnout.
[2:26:49] My No Book teaser: 850 pages on renegotiating commitments and getting back on the wagon.
[2:29:55] The Mindy Kaling manifesto: @MindyKalingFan, The Office, and shattering expectations for Indian women in entertainment.
[2:37:19] Wishlist shout-out: Norland College, where Mary Poppins meets Secret Service.
[2:39:26] Episodes Michelle would pay to relive.
[2:44:24] Episodes Michelle would pay to skip.
[2:49:00] Seven marathons, seven continents, one week.
[2:54:06] Free Solo, Alex Honnold in the creepy van, and things both of us would never do.
[2:57:37] Books gifted most: Radical Candor, The Great CEO Within, and Adam Grant's Originals.
[2:58:21] Michelle's billboard.
[2:59:45] A primetime Emmy run and parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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![The Many Benefits of Coca — The “Divine Leaf” with 8,000+ Years of Use
Coca is to cocaine what potatoes are to vodka — Dr. Andrew Weil and Wade Davis on the health benefits, sacred history, and unjust prohibition of the most misunderstood plant on Earth.
Dr. Andrew Weil is a pioneer in integrative medicine and founder of the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona, where he holds the Lovell-Jones Endowed Chair and serves as Clinical Professor of Medicine and Professor of Public Health.
Wade Davis is an ethnographer, writer, photographer, and filmmaker. From 2014 to 2024 he served as Professor of Anthropology and BC Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia, and from 2000 to 2013 as Explorer-in-Residence at the National Geographic Society.
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[00:00] Start.
[00:30] When coca tea cured my brutal altitude sickness in Chile.
[01:56] Andy meets coca, 1965: the Andes master medicine for gut, energy, mood, metabolism.
[04:20] 14 alkaloids, one scapegoat.
[05:12] The paradox: one remedy for both diarrhea and constipation.
[09:49] 8,000 years, zero addiction — and the 1975 study no one wanted to run.
[11:23] Eradication began 60 years before there was a cocaine problem.
[12:05] Two nations inside Peru: alcohol versus coca.
[12:42] The 1950 UN commission that dictated coca policy by pseudoscience, fear, and racism.
[13:49] Filed beside fentanyl and heroin; 250,000 families and the price of peace.
[15:46] What coca actually feels like: milder than half a coffee, no crash, no withdrawal.
[20:06] Decoupling the leaf from the cartels; why crop substitution is a fantasy.
[21:45] Domesticated three times; the accident of Schedule II.
[23:42] The sacred leaf: kintu, cruceta, Pachamama, runakuna.
[27:10] Hayo in the Sierra Nevada, and Latin Americas most-denied gift.
[28:56] The wedge in the door: demand, the FDA, and an entrepreneurs gold mine.
[36:40] The story coca deserves — a film, green powders, and one good study.
[39:31] Monkey mind, the tax of consciousness, and an 84th birthday on coca.
[43:59] Whom to fund: McCurdy and the hunt for legal leaves.
[45:41] Could coca treat cocaine addiction? Cost, and NIDAs timing.
[49:46] Green cocaine at the airport: coca is to cocaine as potatoes are to vodka.
[53:28] A 24-hour ritual run powered entirely by coca.
[55:41] Why two men gave their careers to one leaf — and the pharmaceutical body count.
[1:03:06] Americas legal cocaine capital, and Cokes secret recipe.
[1:05:58] No accident: the hideous prose behind laws we still obey.
[1:12:38] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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![Building “Charisma on Command” to 10M+ Subscribers — Charlie Houpert
Charlie Houpert is the co-founder of Charisma on Command, a company that helps people develop confidence, charisma, and strong social skills. Originally launched as a 4-Hour Workweek-inspired “muse,” it has since grown into one of the largest platforms for social skills and confidence training, with more than 10 million YouTube subscribers worldwide and more than a billion views across its channels in six languages. His flagship course, Charisma University, has guided more than 30,000 members through practical steps to become more magnetic.
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[00:00] Start
[03:51] Why defaulting to management consulting after college felt like daily self-betrayal.
[07:07] Leaping into parkour training via DVD as a first business attempt.
[09:29] Moonlighting vs. burning-ships entrepreneurship.
[10:39] Negotiating remote work with a 90% raise.
[15:18] Charlie moves to New York and kicks off KickAss Academy.
[16:13] Airbnb survival tactics while living in a 396 sq. ft. apartment.
[17:28] Using the fear-setting exercise and other disaster-mitigation strategies.
[20:16] Charlie’s first blog post and crossing the publishing Rubicon.
[22:34] How Charlie’s first in-person class prompted an accidental business model.
[27:31] 10 go-getters make an ambitious move to Brazil.
[30:30] The daily growth whiteboard system.
[31:22] How a harsh Tucker Max consultation galvanized the rebranding to Charisma on Command.
[38:12] From financial downturn to pre-selling a course for $12,500.
[44:38] Finally making enough money to chase summer in six-to-eight-month increments.
[45:55] Enjoying the sustainable benefits of creating timeless content.
[48:04] How Bill Clinton seduced 7,000 people into following Charlie on YouTube.
[49:41] How Greg McKeown’s Essentialism helped solve Charlie’s “Herbie” problem.
[52:28] Evolving funnel flow and fame-jacking.
[57:50] YouTube algorithm changes, short-form content, and maintaining audience trust for the long term.
[01:05:09] Why I still create this podcast.
[01:14:10] The dangers of succumbing entirely to audience expectation over authenticity.
[01:16:28] The catalysts that led to time off, an ayahuasca retreat, and a seven-year transformation process.
[01:25:24] Making the transition from 50/50 partner to sole owner.
[01:30:20] Recommended reading: Six Pillars of Self-Esteem by Nathaniel Branden
[01:32:44] The influence of The Last Psychiatrist blog.
[01:36:56] Jay Abraham coaching: “Make it good enough for Tim Ferriss.”
[01:39:03] How testimonials added a 4x conversion lift.
[01:39:42] Coming to an agreement with the co-founder.
[01:42:34] Joe Hudson and the Art of Accomplishment.
[01:47:14] Why I stand by The 4-Hour Workweek without further revision, warts and all.
[01:50:31] Exercising gratitude even when receiving praise is difficult.
[01:54:43] Relationship with earlier work: video vs. writing.
[01:57:46] Don’t miss “Filling the Void.”
[01:59:41] More recommended reading.
[02:02:25] Improv & Dragons.
[02:03:45] Charlie’s billboard: “Don’t think, feel.”
[02:04:36] Parting thoughts. Building “Charisma on Command” to 10M+ Subscribers — Charlie Houpert](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxkjMnSCg3k/mqdefault.jpg)





