Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
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Joe Polish sits down with Ken Wells, author of Dare to be Average and writer of the Genius Recovery Blog. Ken shares his insights from decades of helping high-profile individuals and prison inmates navigate pain, shame, and addiction. Joe opens up about his own harrowing journey through drug and sex addiction, revealing how he used external achievements to mask internal pain. They explored what it means to find value in everyday moments, why "scrubbing the wound" is essential for true healing, and how to separate your self-worth from your mistakes.
Key Takeaways:
• The Myth of Constant Achievement: Why finding meaning in commonplace, everyday experiences is crucial for your well-being.
• Handling Failure: The lesson we can learn from baseball legend Mickey Mantle, who struck out 1,700 times and walked 1,800 times—equating to 7 years of never touching the ball.
• Understanding Addiction: How unmet childhood developmental needs create "Swiss cheese" holes that we try to fill with external highs.
• Joe Polish’s Story: Joe's raw confession about battling drug and sex addiction, and why white-knuckling through recovery doesn't work.
• Scrubbing the Wound: Why facing your deepest pain is like pulling an infected tooth—it hurts initially, but it's the only way to heal and prevent further infection.
• Doing the Work: Why 12-step programs are "step meetings" and require active participation, not just sitting on the sidelines as an observer.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction to Ken Wells and his book Dare to be Average
02:12 – When does the obsession with achievement become toxic?
03:40 – The Mickey Mantle analogy for handling failure
05:25 – Separating your self-worth from your shameful behavior
06:23 – Joe Polish shares his journey through drug and sex addiction
12:03 – How unmet developmental needs lead to addiction ("The Swiss Cheese" analogy)
13:24 – The painful but necessary process of "scrubbing the wound"
15:47 – Joe's first experience at a Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting
17:21 – Why recovery requires participation, not just observation
22:28 – The Genius Recovery Blog
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Joe's Free Book: joesfreebook.com
If you’d like to join world-renowned Entrepreneurs at the next Genius Network® Event – then apply today for your invitation to attend at geniusnetwork.com/event/.
Joe Polish sits down with Ken Wells, author of Dare to be Average and writer of the Genius Recovery Blog. Ken shares his insights from decades of helping high-profile individuals and prison inmates navigate pain, shame, and addiction. Joe opens up about his own harrowing journey through drug and sex addiction, revealing how he used external achievements to mask internal pain. They explored what it means to find value in everyday moments, why "scrubbing the wound" is essential for true healing, and how to separate your self-worth from your mistakes.
Key Takeaways:
• The Myth of Constant Achievement: Why finding meaning in commonplace, everyday experiences is crucial for your well-being.
• Handling Failure: The lesson we can learn from baseball legend Mickey Mantle, who struck out 1,700 times and walked 1,800 times—equating to 7 years of never touching the ball.
• Understanding Addiction: How unmet childhood developmental needs create "Swiss cheese" holes that we try to fill with external highs.
• Joe Polish’s Story: Joe's raw confession about battling drug and sex addiction, and why white-knuckling through recovery doesn't work.
• Scrubbing the Wound: Why facing your deepest pain is like pulling an infected tooth—it hurts initially, but it's the only way to heal and prevent further infection.
• Doing the Work: Why 12-step programs are "step meetings" and require active participation, not just sitting on the sidelines as an observer.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction to Ken Wells and his book Dare to be Average
02:12 – When does the obsession with achievement become toxic?
03:40 – The Mickey Mantle analogy for handling failure
05:25 – Separating your self-worth from your shameful behavior
06:23 – Joe Polish shares his journey through drug and sex addiction
12:03 – How unmet developmental needs lead to addiction ("The Swiss Cheese" analogy)
13:24 – The painful but necessary process of "scrubbing the wound"
15:47 – Joe's first experience at a Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting
17:21 – Why recovery requires participation, not just observation
22:28 – The Genius Recovery Blog
Ready for more Genius Network training and inspiration? 🚩SUBSCRIBE 🚩 to the YouTube Channel here: goo.gl/0mX9id
==============================================
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![Born This Way: The 6 Traits of Real Entrepreneurs in a Hustle-Obsessed World ft. Gino Wickman
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Why do so many entrepreneurs kill themselves climbing the mountain only to get to the top and feel just as empty as when they started? In this deep and personal conversation, Joe Polish sits down with Gino Wickman, creator of the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), to explore the sickness that drives high-achievers. Gino breaks down his five-part framework for the entrepreneurs journey, from the Entrepreneurial Leap to finding peace with Shine.
Youll learn why Gino believes true entrepreneurs are born, not made , and why most of them never raise money. The discussion confronts the Dark Night of the Soul for successful leaders and offers a path to move from fear-based decisions to love-based clarity , ultimately revealing that the mountain is a myth and the whole thing is just a journey.
In This Video, You’ll Learn:
• The 6 essential traits Gino believes every true entrepreneur is born with.
• Ginos 5 pieces of content that map the entire entrepreneurial journey.
• The critical difference between a true entrepreneur and a self-employed business owner.
• Why most successful entrepreneurs never raise outside money.
• How to nail it before you scale it and avoid scaling chaos.
• Why systems and structure (like EOS) are designed to create freedom, not restrict it.
• The powerful relationship between a Visionary and an Integrator.
• How to use the People Analyzer to identify wrong fits in your company.
• The 3-Strike Rule for firing (and why most people will leave on their own).
• How to break free from the Dark Night of the Soul when success feels empty.
• The 3 Discoveries for finding peace without losing your drive.
• How to shift from fear-based (ego) decisions to love-based (true self) decisions.
• The Synchronicity Pocket: Finding the perfect speed between too fast and too slow.
Timestamps:
[00:00] – The hole that entrepreneurs are trying to fill.
[02:30] – Ginos 5 pieces of content: The entrepreneurs journey.
[05:10] – The 6 essential traits of a true entrepreneur.
[07:45] – The trap of raising money: Are they fake entrepreneurs?.
[09:15] – Why most true entrepreneurs dont raise money.
[10:30] – The problem with the buzzword scale.
[12:00] – How systems and structure (like EOS) actually create freedom, not restrict it.
[13:45] – The Visionary and the Integrator relationship (ADD/ADHD).
[15:10] – Accepting your fucked-up-ness as a superpower.
[16:20] – The 2 traits that get entrepreneurs through failure: Driven & Passionate.
[17:30] – Dan Sullivans 5 ways to get paid (beyond money).
[18:45] – ELF vs. HALF: Easy, Lucrative, Fun vs. Hard, Annoying, Lame, Frustrating.
[20:00] – The 5 components of the EOS Life (Your Ideal Life).
[21:30] – Why you must avoid half the mistakes (and cant avoid the other half).
[23:00] – The trap of Reporters of Success vs. actual entrepreneurs.
[24:15] – Those who cant, teach and why Gino only teaches what hes lived.
[25:30] – Shifting from fear-based (ego) decisions.
[27:00] – The 3 Discoveries: I am driven, Love vs. Fear, and Driven with Peace.
[28:30] – The Dark Night of the Soul: Feeling empty after success.
[30:00] – Outside-In (Ego/Fear) vs. Inside-Out (True Self/Love).
[31:15] – Joes experience with prison visits and finding perspective.
[33:00] – The 5 Stages of Awakening (from Born Perfect to Re-entry).
[35:00] – Shedding the pain: Its going to come up just as painful as it went down.
[36:30] – Success traps are harder to get out of than failure traps.
[38:00] – Why childhood trauma is the real root of adult conflict.
[39:30] – The Mountain: Climbing vs. Handling the Downhill.
[40:45] – The Synchronicity Pocket: Slowing down to find the perfect speed.
[42:30] – The danger of indigestion of too many opportunities.
[43:45] – Using Core Focus to say NO to shiny objects.
[45:30] – Execution vs. Integration (Making it part of your culture).
[47:00] – How EOS forces integration and execution (Vision Traction Organizer).
[49:00] – The 3-Strike Rule for firing (and getting bad people out).
[51:00] – The entrepreneurs trap: Believing you can save people.
[52:30] – How to compensate your team (Its cultural).
[54:00] – Ginos definition of greatness (The EOS Life).
[55:30] – You deserve it (Overcoming shame and learning to love yourself).
[58:00] – The final lesson: There is no mountain.
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