Uploaded July 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 days ago
This week, we're excited to share with our community a bonus episode from PERMISSIONLESS IV, which just took place this past week in Brooklyn, NY. This is a Fireside Chat with Yano and Ivan Soto-Wright, the CEO of MoonPay, and Sherri Haymond of MasterCard who dive in and discuss the fusion of DeFi and TradFi.
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CHAPTERS
00:25 - Intro
01:00 - Mastercard's Web3 Journey
02:53 - Stablecoins + MoonPay
05:08 - MoonPay + MasterCard Partnership
07:28 - Katana Ad
08:28 - Beneficiaries Of The Future Of DeFi + TradFi
12:25 - Global Stablecoin Adoption
15:25 - Stablecoin Backed Cards
16:31 - Katana Ad
20:12 - Future Industry Thesis For Tokenization
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
This week, we're excited to share with our community a bonus episode from PERMISSIONLESS IV, which just took place this past week in Brooklyn, NY. This is a Fireside Chat with Yano and Ivan Soto-Wright, the CEO of MoonPay, and Sherri Haymond of MasterCard who dive in and discuss the fusion of DeFi and TradFi.
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Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross.
Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts
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đ§ Spotify - bit.ly/4eCimSG
đ§ Apple - bit.ly/4eAGLYX
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Follow Sherri - https://x.com/SherriHaymond
Follow Jason - https://x.com/jasonyanowitz
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Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users.
Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates]
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CHAPTERS
00:25 - Intro
01:00 - Mastercard's Web3 Journey
02:53 - Stablecoins + MoonPay
05:08 - MoonPay + MasterCard Partnership
07:28 - Katana Ad
08:28 - Beneficiaries Of The Future Of DeFi + TradFi
12:25 - Global Stablecoin Adoption
15:25 - Stablecoin Backed Cards
16:31 - Katana Ad
20:12 - Future Industry Thesis For Tokenization
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.





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