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This is the second part of a conversation between Dave Darby of Lowimpact.org and Jem Bendell, professor of sustainability leadership at the University of Cumbria, and author of the now famous 2018 Deep Adaptation paper that claimed that we’re on an inevitable path to civilisational collapse
Transcript of interview, with links to organisations and information mentioned in the video: lowimpact.org/posts/conversation-with-jem-bendell-part-2-how-should-we-respond-to-the-collapse-of-capitalism.
Here’s part one, about the way that capitalism is collapsing: youtube.com/watch?v=fPjMWBEAm3M
Here’s a review of his new book, Breaking Together: lowimpact.org/posts/if-our-civilisation-were-collapsing-would-we-even-know-review-of-jem-bendells-breaking-together
We’re interviewing key players in the new economy, to: a) bring their work to a wider audience b) try to find ways to co-ordinate their efforts c) stimulate debate d) help to build the new economy.
Lowimpact.org: lowimpact.org
JemBendell.com: jembendell.com
Breaking Together: schumacherinstitute.org.uk/product/jem-bendell-book
Deep Adaptation: jembendell.com/2019/05/15/deep-adaptation-versions
Here’s what we mean by new economy: lowimpact.org/categories/low-impact-economy
Highlights:
• It’s understandable (but a bad idea) that when people are freaked out they start calling for a ‘vanguard elite’ to force us all to change.
• Any curbs on our freedoms need to be accountable to us. It’s the opposite of a misanthropic view of human nature – the opposite of the idea that we’re naughty kids who need a strict daddy to sort us out for our own good.
• All we can point at from XR activity over the last 5 years is a whole lot of government funding for useless venture capitalist projects, and calling it a ‘climate response’.
• The way that you can work with local, small businesses and entrepreneurs and groups in working-class communities with commons tools – that’s the way to go. That really is building from below, rather than just working with the middle classes who have a little spare cash to dabble in ideas like the Totnes Pound etc.
This is the second part of a conversation between Dave Darby of Lowimpact.org and Jem Bendell, professor of sustainability leadership at the University of Cumbria, and author of the now famous 2018 Deep Adaptation paper that claimed that we’re on an inevitable path to civilisational collapse
Transcript of interview, with links to organisations and information mentioned in the video: lowimpact.org/posts/conversation-with-jem-bendell-part-2-how-should-we-respond-to-the-collapse-of-capitalism.
Here’s part one, about the way that capitalism is collapsing: youtube.com/watch?v=fPjMWBEAm3M
Here’s a review of his new book, Breaking Together: lowimpact.org/posts/if-our-civilisation-were-collapsing-would-we-even-know-review-of-jem-bendells-breaking-together
We’re interviewing key players in the new economy, to: a) bring their work to a wider audience b) try to find ways to co-ordinate their efforts c) stimulate debate d) help to build the new economy.
Lowimpact.org: lowimpact.org
JemBendell.com: jembendell.com
Breaking Together: schumacherinstitute.org.uk/product/jem-bendell-book
Deep Adaptation: jembendell.com/2019/05/15/deep-adaptation-versions
Here’s what we mean by new economy: lowimpact.org/categories/low-impact-economy
Highlights:
• It’s understandable (but a bad idea) that when people are freaked out they start calling for a ‘vanguard elite’ to force us all to change.
• Any curbs on our freedoms need to be accountable to us. It’s the opposite of a misanthropic view of human nature – the opposite of the idea that we’re naughty kids who need a strict daddy to sort us out for our own good.
• All we can point at from XR activity over the last 5 years is a whole lot of government funding for useless venture capitalist projects, and calling it a ‘climate response’.
• The way that you can work with local, small businesses and entrepreneurs and groups in working-class communities with commons tools – that’s the way to go. That really is building from below, rather than just working with the middle classes who have a little spare cash to dabble in ideas like the Totnes Pound etc.










